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    amare?

    i don't like the idea of trading manu...
    i love him, one of my favorite players, and i always hoped (hope) he can retire as a spur..




























    but, without bias, i would trade manu for dhoward in a heartbeat, and amare, well, packaged with another player would work.

    yes, i know these propositions don't match up financially.
    Popovich would have a stroke if he tried to coach Amare. D'antoni almost had a stroke and he didn't even care about Amare's biggest weakness.

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    He's got a shot at the rookie/soph game

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    so much untapped potential

    fkn legend i tell yah....

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    Manu for Camby ? That's like trading your ice cream for a punch in the stomach.

    Manu's trade value is far less ( for many obvious reasons ) than what he gives us on the court, so there is no way you can get even close to similar value for him in both potential and actual help for this year's le run.

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    Every year with Duncan is a big year and risking 2 years to wait for a rookie to develop while you already have the #3 SG in the league is one of the worst ideas I've heard all day.

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    Right now I would say Camby is about the best you could get for Manu.
    You gotta be ing kidding me. Cotton Camby? You're seriously nothing but a troll.

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    Every year with Duncan is a big year and risking 2 years to wait for a rookie to develop while you already have the #3 SG in the league is one of the worst ideas I've heard all day.
    You're only looking at one side of the side what you are losing. How about the big increase in production the front court will get with the addition of Camby.

    The Spurs will not get past the Lakers in the playoffs with the current roster as it is. You will see.

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    You're only looking at one side of the side what you are losing. How about the big increase in production the front court will get with the addition of Camby.

    The Spurs will not get past the Lakers in the playoffs with the current roster as it is. You will see.
    I think the only side you're looking at is the inside of your ass.

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    Just leave Manu alone. He is the heart of the San Antonio Spurs.

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    You're only looking at one side of the side what you are losing. How about the big increase in production the front court will get with the addition of Camby.

    The Spurs will not get past the Lakers in the playoffs with the current roster as it is. You will see.
    the Spurs will not even get the chance to try to get past the Lakers, if they trade Manu.

    aside the fact that an addition of Camby would be nice, it's quite naive to look at the numbers of that player and claim he would produce the same way when he was with the Spurs. but it's a 100% sure thing that what Manu provides will be gone. and it still seems to be a secrete to some people that the impact of Manu comes from the unique combination of numbers, versatility, scoring efficiency and clutch ability.
    and then there is the fact that Tim, Tony and Manu could play with bandaged eyes and would find each other.

    yes, we need a big. yes, Camby would be nice. if Hill is half as good as you claim, he would also be attractive for other teams and so I would use him 100 times as a teaser in a trade for a big, before I even think about trading Manu.

    btw. starting SG, long arms etc......what a nonsense.
    some long arms help you a bit to play bigger than your size, but any 6'2'', 180 lbs SG will be eaten alive by every Kobe version 6'6'' 220 lbs athlete, no matter how long his arms are. and unfortunately some of those big SGs also display some freaking long arms.

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    there's no emoticon alive that can adequately describe what i think about you.

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    trade Manu for Camby? please God no!

    We could never get an equal value trade when trading Manu, he is so underpaid, so risky and so special that most GMs would not offer anything close to his value.

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    You rascal you.

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    Very good player but i am not sure about a All-Star...

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    Very good player but i am not sure about a All-Star...
    Did last night's game change your mind?

    It certainly had an impact on me. After watching that layup, and the steal/dunk... I had to shake my head and think "This kid's got a chance to be something special".

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    Very good player but i am not sure about a All-Star...
    Yes Hill is a good player but there is a problem with his number of assists

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    Yes Hill is a good player but there is a problem with his number of assists

    Hill is not a true assit pg and with Parker locked in as the pg getting the bulk of the minutes Hill could move over and play the 2.
    His long reach makes him play a little bigger than his listed height and he would have no problem moving over to play the 2 guard spot.

    Between Hill and Mason the 2 guard spot would be covered with solid players and would not be a weakness on the team while the center position would have a major upgrade.

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    Yes Hill is a good player but there is a problem with his number of assists
    He'll have to develop as a point guard over time (though he'll likely split time between the point and 2-guard), just as Tony did.

    This kid's only been in the NBA for a couple months. I don't think anyone is saying that he's and all-star NOW... but it's hard to argue against his potential.

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    He'll have to develop as a point guard over time (though he'll likely split time between the point and 2-guard), just as Tony did.

    This kid's only been in the NBA for a couple months. I don't think anyone is saying that he's and all-star NOW... but it's hard to argue against his potential.

    How could he ever be an all star playing primarily as a backup to Parker?

    The way it could happen is to play him at the 2 and to do that Manu has to be moved to open up more minutes for him.

    Little doubt he has the physical hops to develope into a star player but he needs the opportunity.

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    becuase hill cant play sg
    Why can't he?

    He has the size (when you factor his wing span). He can shoot from outside. He can drive to the basket. No reason in the world why he can't play SG, and as he develops, he almost certainly will get some time at the 2-guard position.

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    How could he ever be an all star playing primarily as a backup to Parker?

    The way it could happen is to play him at the 2 and to do that Manu has to be moved to open up more minutes for him.

    Little doubt he has the physical hops to develope into a star player but he needs the opportunity.
    Manu does NOT have to be moved for Hill to get minutes dude. I don't get why you've got that in your head.

    He can get 15 minutes a game at the point behind Parker, and eventually, he'll begin to cut into the minutes of everyone that plays the 2-guard... then at some point, Finley will no longer be needed.
    Last edited by Kent_in_Atlanta; 01-09-2009 at 12:40 PM.

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    Manu does NOT have to be moved for Hill to get minutes dude. I don't get why you've got that in your head.

    He can get 15 minutes a game at the point behind Parker, and eventually, he'll begin to cut into the minutes of everyone that plays the 2-guard... and eventually, Finley will no longer be needed.
    Hill should not be waiting to eventually get minutes. He is good enough to be getting minutes now to quicken his development and confidence by playing .

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    Your not going to get anything really good for Manu so I think you can forget it. Hill will get a lot of playing time like he has and he'll continue to get better but I don't see why you need to get rid of Manu now. Hey he may be gone soon anyways after his contract expires.

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    Hill should not be waiting to eventually get minutes. He is good enough to be getting minutes now to quicken his development and confidence by playing .
    so you would trade manu for the sake of getting hill some experience. brilliant move, einstein. might as well trade duncan too since we can kiss any chance for a championship goodbye. remind me never to hire you as a consultant.

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    Hill should not be waiting to eventually get minutes. He is good enough to be getting minutes now to quicken his development and confidence by playing .
    Well, call Coach Pop and tell him you know better. Pop can give Hill as many minutes as he wants to without having to move anyone.

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