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Yao is a PF? Didn't know that...
Who the guards the paint?
If the Spurs had Dirk instead of Duncan, every freaking point guard will pick & roll Dirk to death. BTW Dirk couldn't post up against the Golden State Warriors midgets.
As much as i love Dirk, he still isn't in Duncan's league.
The great ones play on both ends.
Yao is a PF? Didn't know that...
I'll take Dirk's shot against the team that beat the out of the Spurs not too long ago.
Winning the MVP already locked him up for the Hall.
I'll take that too.
People are saying Dirk is the best PF in the NBA today on a Spurs forum and there hasn't been any smack talk from Spurs fans????? WTF!!???!!!
Well Sooks post pretty much says it all for him don'tcha think? LOLYao is a PF? Didn't know that...
spurs fans know basketball.
so far this year Dirk > other PF
that will change when tim will play some defense
Dirk's putting up better stats than Duncan and Duncan is no longer as dominant as he once was, but I think Duncan's interior defense and back to basket style which forces defenses to gravitate still makes him the premier PF in te laegue. Dirk is #2 though.
Also, I don't think Dirk + Manu/Parker necessarily equals a championship.
There is no way you can take Dirk over Malone.
Malone is one of the leading scorers in NBA history.
Sorry but I'm taking Duncan over Dirk. 4 Championships to zero. Tim's defense and back to the basket style makes him much more valuable to the team than Dirk .
Malone is a leading scorer because of longevity. But if people accuse Dirk of being "soft" or choking, than Malone is Dirk^2. In the big games he continually shot that 12-15 foot jumper which was nowhere as good as Dirk's. In terms of taking over games, Dirk > Malone. I am not sure about Barkley. As I said, in his peak Barkley was probably better than Dirk, but that peak of his didn't last long.
Duncan is still the best PF in the league. But Dirk is playing like it right now.
It's more the defense really.
People like the back to the basket/post players because they are usually good at scoring the "easy" points. In other terms, they are very efficient scores. But Dirk already is one of the more efficient scorers the league has ever seen. It's especially true if you consider true shooting average, which is calculated taking in consideration 3pt shots and FT shots.
But yes, the defense is what truly separates them. However what most people are saying, is that right now, Dirk is playing at an extremely high level, whereas Duncan isn't. That most likely will change in the playoffs.
We're talking about the best PF in the NBA right now, not in the past.
Currently, I would rank Dirk behind Duncan at #2, because of Duncan's interior defense. His defense makes him the best PF ever, giving him a small edge over Dirk (in the current rankings) and Malone (in the overall rankings). Malone was by far the best PF ever on the offensive end (sorry, but Duncan definitely can't touch him there), but IMO the difference between Duncan's and Malone's defense was larger than the difference on the offensive side (although I have to admit that Malone had a very good defense for a PF). The final edge is also contributed to Duncan's rings.
Barkley was very good as well and in his prime he was able to play at the same level, but his decline was IMO rather fast.
Certainly as a skill set Malone had a larger one on the offensive end compared to Duncan but not as much as you make it to be.
1. Duncan is much much better around the basket. His long arms and large hands allow him to be a deadly finisher even from very tough angles.
2. Malone was as big a softie in big games as there will ever be. Stockton always took the big shots for them, whereas Malone insisted on shooting that jumper of his which isn't as good as Dirk's (as I said before) or at times even Duncan. Malone was a beast on that pick and roll, where he could show of his athletic prowes, but that is also because he had a great PG. Neither Dirk nor Duncan have played with anyone of Stockton's caliber for their whole career. Nash is the closest but they were together for only 5 years and before Nash really hit his prime.
Wow ST showing some love for Dirk for a change !!
The best PF in the league is still Tim Duncan then Dirk no doubt. Duncan>Dirk>Amare>KG
I think eveyone greatly respects Dirk for the most part. He has his flaws, but no one doubts that he is talented and that he competes.
But he is no Duncan...
4 RINGS GOT
Dirk/Bosh/Duncan = Tier 1 power forwards who are all about equal
Amare/Garnett = Tier 1.5
and where does Al Jefferson fit into this ranking? I put Al Jefferson right up there.
Duncan, Dirk > Bosh.
Put your Homerism aside. Bosh sucks lately, but his numbers early in the year were impressive.
Bosh has picked it up again after a slow late December/early January. But he is below Dirk and Duncan, and probably Gasol as well. He is closer to Amare's class to me.
My order is:
Duncan, Dirk, Gasol, KG, Bosh, Amare!
Ofcourse it's open to debate, but I think Gasol is playing better than KG right now, and Bosh is better than Amare because he does give an effort on defense.
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