The Wussification of our Kids

[Biggems]

Running a full court press in the fourth quarter when you're up 89-0 is poor sportsmanship, and anyone should be embarassed to be involved in a game like that. Leave it to Mono not to understand a basketball team displaying class or dignity.

Would it be poor sportsmanship in the NBA? These guys are getting paid millions to perform at their best for 48 minutes a night.

I can see on the HS level, calling off the dogs. I can even see at the college level as well. However, life is about lessons. Sports is the ultimate lesson. You win, you lose. You dominate, you get dominated. Do you have the discipline and inner strength to continue to battle over the longhaul? If so, even if you get owned 100-0 every single game.....the fact that you kept fighting and battling, shows your greatness of character. It shows that when you get out into the real world and life starts smacking you to the ground....that you will have the inner strength to get back up and try again....because these are lessons that were ingrained into you through athletics and even academics.

However, if you win via forfeit, all that does is tell you that you dont have to compete and you can still be a winner......BULL

[mogrovejo]

The losing team didn't complain, didn't request the forfeit and didn't badmouth the winners. According to the article, they accepted the defeat very graciously. Looking at their record, it's clear that losing doesn't affect their willing to compete.

[Obstructed_View]

Would it be poor sportsmanship in the NBA? These guys are getting paid millions to perform at their best for 48 minutes a night.

Yes, it would be poor sportsmanship anywhere, but pros need to expect that. And they wouldn't, because in the pros someone would get a flagrant 2 long before that happens. Most pro coaches are smart enough to know that you don't do that, and you don't endanger your players by humiliating people like that.

Those girls on the losing team didn't ask for a forefeit, they didn't walk off the court and quit, they didn't cry, and they didn't take anybody's knee out. They stayed for the whole game and played as well as they could. That's the definition of competing. Don't try to make some case that what the other team did was in any way acceptable. When you are an adult who, as a teacher, is ultimately responsible for the safety and development of other people's children, you damn well call off the dogs at some point long before 100-0.

[Medvedenko]

Yes, it would be poor sportsmanship anywhere, but pros need to expect that. And they wouldn't, because in the pros someone would get a flagrant 2 long before that happens. Most pro coaches are smart enough to know that you don't do that, and you don't endanger your players by humiliating people like that.

Those girls on the losing team didn't ask for a forefeit, they didn't walk off the court and quit, they didn't cry, and they didn't take anybody's knee out. They stayed for the whole game and played as well as they could. That's the definition of competing. Don't try to make some case that what the other team did was in any way acceptable. When you are an adult who, as a teacher, is ultimately responsible for the safety and development of other people's children, you damn well call off the dogs at some point long before 100-0.

I agree wholeheartedly....

[chreph]

I can't believe I'm the first to bring this up, but I wonder where KG stands on this issue?

[Trainwreck2100]

The objective of basketball is to score points and prevent your opponent from scoring. Where exactly did those girls screw up in the OBJECTIVES OF THE ENTIRE GAME OF BASKETBALL? Poor sportsmanship means NOT playing the game exactly how it's intended to be played. Poor sportsmanship is not caring enough to score ONE GODDAMN POINT and then crying about getting your ass kicked 100-0.

The only people who displayed poor sportsmanship were the girls who allowed that ass-kicking to take place. They obviously weren't good enough to win, but to go a whole game without having the heart to score ONE TIME shows a complete lack of respect for the game.

You gotta be a serious pussy to think it's okay for a team to show such poor sportsmanship that they aren't even going to compete. I'm guessing you're one of those pussies who cried when the Patriots "ran up the score" last year.

Oh, I can't wait for the "yeah then I laughed when karma kicked their ass".

I still don't get what you are arguing, it's the winning team that is seeking the forfeit. And how do you know that team didn't compete. Maybe they were just outclassed, the coach never took his foot off the gas. god forbid the team loaded with players who have learning disabilities not figure out how to beat a full court press. They didn't just beat that other team, they humiliated that other team. Which is why they feel bad. I will agree the whole forfeit thing is stupid as . "Sorry we beat your ass here take the win cause we don't need it" is a backhanded slap

[baseline bum]

Slow news day? Anyways, play to win or don't play. It's not like they beat a team of cripples in wheelchairs.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

How can you lose 100-0? How is this possible?

[pawe]

Even if tournament basketball is a sport determining which team is the best. It is not always about compe ion.
would you have felt better having a shutout or at the last second, discreetly let the other team score just a single basket.
Some coaches can make something out of that by claiming victory by scoring against a team trying to shut them out..it could have been a win-win situation.

[Chris]

Perhaps you're not being reasonable. I understand your point and I see its merits. In fact, a similar situation once happened to me - we played a much weaker team - and the first thing Coach said to us was exactly something like "the best way to respect them, and respect the game, it's to play as hard as in any other game; we're not taking plays off because we're so much better or we pity them".

However, he also instructed us to make it a half-court game. To stay with our man and not play happy-go-lucky defence, just contest the shots. And to run our half-court sets (instead of just driving to lay-ups and ac ulate steals, as we could have done). This way, the other kids also played. They were outscored by 80 points or so, they only made 4 or 5 shots, but it still looked like a game, with people bouncing and passing the rock.

Sportsmanship is made of unwritten rules. When you are so superior you don't mock your opponents just because you can. At this level, you respect them by playing your best but not by taking advantage of every single one of their flaws. That's just unnecessary and in very bad taste.

The problem is not the 100-0 score. IMO, the problem is running the full court press the entire game. That's ridiculous and that Coach should be ashamed of himself.

Also, about this: then crying about getting your ass kicked 100-0. Where exactly have they cried? To me it seems they're handling the situation very graciously.

I don't know exactly what the Patriots did - I don't follow that sport - but I see the situation in professional sports as different.

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[ClingingMars]

again, these teams should have never played each other.

-Mars

[IronMexican]

How can you lose 100-0? How is this possible?

It was a bunch of American girls vs Greek's.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Those kids should be traded for Devin Harris.

[ploto]

again, these teams should have never played each other.

They are both TAPPS 2A teams. Who do you want them to play?

[manufor3]

They are both TAPPS 2A teams. Who do you want them to play?

what mars is trying to say is that dallas academy should not be in the same division seeing that they are much small

[BUMP]

Perhaps you're not being reasonable. I understand your point and I see its merits. In fact, a similar situation once happened to me - we played a much weaker team - and the first thing Coach said to us was exactly something like "the best way to respect them, and respect the game, it's to play as hard as in any other game; we're not taking plays off because we're so much better or we pity them".

However, he also instructed us to make it a half-court game. To stay with our man and not play happy-go-lucky defence, just contest the shots. And to run our half-court sets (instead of just driving to lay-ups and ac ulate steals, as we could have done). This way, the other kids also played. They were outscored by 80 points or so, they only made 4 or 5 shots, but it still looked like a game, with people bouncing and passing the rock.

Sportsmanship is made of unwritten rules. When you are so superior you don't mock your opponents just because you can. At this level, you respect them by playing your best but not by taking advantage of every single one of their flaws. That's just unnecessary and in very bad taste.

The problem is not the 100-0 score. IMO, the problem is running the full court press the entire game. That's ridiculous and that Coach should be ashamed of himself.Also, about this: then crying about getting your ass kicked 100-0. Where exactly have they cried? To me it seems they're handling the situation very graciously.

I don't know exactly what the Patriots did - I don't follow that sport - but I see the situation in professional sports as different.

you say that teams should just run their half court sets and play their normal game, but the full court press might actually be their game which they do all the time. maybe they dont know any other way to play. i played varsity bball in the DFW area and anyone else who follows DFW basketball closely knows about ft worth dunbar. they are known for full court pressing the entire game. they score over 100 regularly but a good team will manage to take advantage and get easy buckets. if you really really suck then it might be a long day for you because thats the only way they play.

i mean the team has lost 4 seasons in a row, these kinds of games are going to come up and thats why they arent complaining, they know this. i just dont understand why these two teams are in the same division?

[ploto]

what mars is trying to say is that dallas academy should not be in the same division seeing that they are much small

TAPPS is the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools. Non-public schools of all types are members of this en y and compete not only in athletic compe ions, but academic and fine arts, as well. Schools are divided into divisions, just like UIL is, by the size of the school.

CLASSIFICATIONS (CLASSES). Participating high schools shall be divided into
classifications for the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 school years according to the following enrollments:

Class 5A.......425 and above
Class 4A.......193-424
Class 3A.......108-191
Class 2A........59-107
Class 1A..........1-58

Dallas Academy and Covenant both have enrollments within those 2A parameters. Dallas Academy is barely big enough and Covenant is barely small enough, but they both fall into the range.

[Obstructed_View]

you say that teams should just run their half court sets and play their normal game, but the full court press might actually be their game which they do all the time. maybe they dont know any other way to play.

They played it until they scored 100 points, at which point they stopped and didn't score another point for the last five or six minutes of the game. The only thing lamer than doing what they did is claiming that it was somehow an accident.

[mrspurs]

These "Christians" need to go to .

Now on my watch. Christ's warriors will always keep people like you exactly where you belong. And we will always bring you in when your empty and hungry. We always have room for lost souls.