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    Jefferson has played center all season. It's between him and Shaq, not West. West was actually the 3rd forward to make it behind Gasol and Dirk. If anything, you could make a case for another forward like Millsaps. Unfortunately for Millsaps, he doesn't have a PG who can carry his teams to victory.

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    At the very least Al Jefferson deserves it over West. But team records factor heavily...the Hornets are good, the T-pups suck.

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    Aldridge is pretty soft. He's perimeter oriented. He doesn't like to play with his back to the basket even though he's bigger than alot of the forwards guarding him. West is usually smaller than the PFs guarding him so he has to face them up and shoot or drive to the basket.

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    Jefferson has played center all season. It's between him and Shaq, not West. West was actually the 3rd forward to make it behind Gasol and Dirk. If anything, you could make a case for another forward like Millsaps. Unfortunately for Millsaps, he doesn't have a PG who can carry his teams to victory.
    It's the All Star game. I don't believe you have to hold to strict definitions of a 5 or 4, 2 or 1. Just divide them into wings and bigs. Nobody is playing defense in this game anyway.

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    It's the All Star game. I don't believe you have to hold to strict definitions of a 5 or 4, 2 or 1. Just divide them into wings and bigs. Nobody is playing defense in this game anyway.
    Suppose your right. But does Shaq really deserve to make it over West? I think West has done alot more this season than Shaq. Again, I wouldn't argue Jefferson over West as a player this season. Jefferson has had a great season. I'm happy West made it, but I would understand if Jefferson made it instead.

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    Aldridge is not soft and he plays great defense. He had a sub-par November so I still don't he deserved it though. Next year he'll be in.

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    Aldridge is not soft and he plays great defense. He had a sub-par November so I still don't he deserved it though. Next year he'll be in.
    Aldridge can't sniff Al Jefferson, stop sippn kool-aid

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    Gary Payton is being upset

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    Aldridge can't sniff Al Jefferson, stop sippn kool-aid
    I'd take LaMarcus over Big Al any day. That's not to say that Big Al isn't a good player, because he definitely is. He doesn't play any D though.

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    I'd take LaMarcus over Big Al any day. That's not to say that Big Al isn't a good player, because he definitely is. He doesn't play any D though.
    Really? You think Aldridge's upside is really that great? There's a reason why his stock wasn't that great as it should have been in the draft. Jefferson seems to have more physical tools. He just plays more like a beast.

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    sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

    Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.

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    sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

    Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.
    son you are harsh with one of your boy

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    sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

    Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.
    I can't argue with you bro. West needs to play smarter when he comes back. He made Peja irrelevant, but Peja has shown he can score on a consistent basis. West needs to play through the offense and not force the issue. He wasn't blessed with alot of physical talent, but has made himself into an All-Star talent. However, he needs to focus more on his overall game instead of just scoring. We need him to rebound and defend down low. Hopefully watching the team win without him will show him how effective we can be when we just run our offense and play as a team.

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    Who is the eastern coach? SVG or Mike Brown? either guy, he has made a big error in picking harris instead of carter from nets.

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    Suppose your right. But does Shaq really deserve to make it over West? I think West has done alot more this season than Shaq. Again, I wouldn't argue Jefferson over West as a player this season. Jefferson has had a great season. I'm happy West made it, but I would understand if Jefferson made it instead.
    I think you can make a case for Shaq. In some ways, he's been Phoenix's best player.

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    The trade was horrible and all, I would like a mulligan on it, but Harris would still probably be the 3rd option if he were still here, and he's Allen Iverson version 2.0. Not a true PG, doesn't make his teammates better, and doesn't play defense now that his coach isn't Avery. He's exactly what we're missing, but he's another in a long line of guys like Maravich and Iverson that need the ball to be effective, and can only make an impact on a game by scoring. If they're not scoring, they're not helping you.

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    I can't argue with you bro. West needs to play smarter when he comes back. He made Peja irrelevant, but Peja has shown he can score on a consistent basis. West needs to play through the offense and not force the issue. He wasn't blessed with alot of physical talent, but has made himself into an All-Star talent. However, he needs to focus more on his overall game instead of just scoring. We need him to rebound and defend down low. Hopefully watching the team win without him will show him how effective we can be when we just run our offense and play as a team.
    True son ... In the last 5 games without West in the lineup, the Hornets are 4-1 and have not missed him AT ALL. If anything, the Hornets have improved and are a much more fast paced team with great ball movement. I have said it once and I will say it again .... the Hornets need Tyson Chandler more than they do David West.

    With West in the lineup this season, Peja has only averaged 12-13 points per game. Not because he isn't shooting well, but because he has only been given VERY LIMITED looks due to West refusing to pass the ball out whenever he is being double teamed. With West out of the lineup, Peja is averaging 23 points pet game and shooting nearly .540% ..... not to mention our other outside shooters have been given more looks as well and are delivering. West slows the team down bad.

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    True son ... In the last 5 games without West in the lineup, the Hornets are 4-1 and have not missed him AT ALL. If anything, the Hornets have improved and are a much more fast paced team with great ball movement. I have said it once and I will say it again .... the Hornets need Tyson Chandler more than they do David West.

    With West in the lineup this season, Peja has only averaged 12-13 points per game. Not because he isn't shooting well, but because he has only been given VERY LIMITED looks due to West refusing to pass the ball out whenever he is being double teamed. With West out of the lineup, Peja is averaging 23 points pet game and shooting nearly .540% ..... not to mention our other outside shooters have been given more looks as well and are delivering. West slows the team down bad.
    Josh for West.

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    son no LOL

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    son they're both worthless. Although Josh Howard circa 2006 will be better and play at a higher level than West ever will.

    I would like to offer Bass for West, but we must realize West is only a slightly better version of Bass, so I wouldn't do that either son.

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    son they're both worthless. Although Josh Howard circa 2006 will be better and play at a higher level than West ever will.

    I would like to offer Bass for West, but we must realize West is only a slightly better version of Bass, so I wouldn't do that either son.
    son West is not worthless. He is just selfish and needs a serious at ude adjustment lol. I do wish that dumb ass Byron Scott would have given Bass a fair chance .... I can't speak for Josh Howard though. Really the only thing that I know about him is that he loves to smoke that chronic and hates the National Anthem ....

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    The trade was horrible and all, I would like a mulligan on it, but Harris would still probably be the 3rd option if he were still here, and he's Allen Iverson version 2.0. Not a true PG, doesn't make his teammates better, and doesn't play defense now that his coach isn't Avery. He's exactly what we're missing, but he's another in a long line of guys like Maravich and Iverson that need the ball to be effective, and can only make an impact on a game by scoring. If they're not scoring, they're not helping you.

    Devin has gotten very much overrated now that he's left IMO. As if the Mavs were a championship contender in 07-08 to begin with? As if we would be better than the Cavs/Celtics/Magic/Lakers simply by plugging in Harris for Kidd? Kidd has atrocious games I think people forget that Devin himself was rather inconsistent though. He can go off for 25-30, he can also go off for 4-6.

    I too would have a mulligan on that trade, but I don't lose too much sleep over it because I can't imagine us being better than the elite or with the elite simply if we had Devin. Our window was closing regardless, like you said Dirk is a 1.5, I don't think Devin is the 1.5 to pair with Dirk.

    What I do lose sleep over though however is the bull officiating and fluky bull jumpers of the 2006 Finals, and the Warriors fluky bull jumpers in 2007. That I lose sleep over. the Kidd trade? Not so much.

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    son West is not worthless. He is just selfish and needs a serious at ude adjustment lol. I do wish that dumb ass Byron Scott would have given Bass a fair chance .... I can't speak for Josh Howard though. Really the only thing that I know about him is that he loves to smoke that chronic and hates the National Anthem ....
    Long term I would rather have Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright over Bass. They both have set positions and more upside. Bass is a tweener like Maxiell. He has alot of skills hence him winning SEC player of the year as a sophmore. Still I think Wright and Armstrong will better for the franchise in the long-term.

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    Long term I would rather have Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright over Bass. They both have set positions and more upside. Bass is a tweener like Maxiell. He has alot of skills hence him winning SEC player of the year as a sophmore. Still I think Wright and Armstrong will better for the franchise in the long-term.
    Long term wise I agree with you 100%. However, I think that Bass should have been given a better chance in New Orleans .... but we all know how Byron Scott hates MOST young players.

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    Long term wise I agree with you 100%. However, I think that Bass should have been given a better chance in New Orleans .... but we all know how Byron Scott hates MOST young players.
    Sons, people have been giving me in the Spurs forum for saying D West has had a beyond mediocre year. What is with that suns?

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