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Lebron is clearly one of the best SF's ever. Not sure if he's second behind Bird, but he's up there, and his career is just beginning. And this is from a Lebron hater.
Yeah, it's what you've done since that point that I'm referring to. Hey, at least ducks agrees with you.
Lebron is clearly one of the best SF's ever. Not sure if he's second behind Bird, but he's up there, and his career is just beginning. And this is from a Lebron hater.
What other SF could be second?
Havlicek? Dr J? Dominique, who was as much a SG as a SF.
If LeBron never played another game in his life he would already be a Top 5 SF ever.
Lebron James is very good... Mark Jackson on the other hand...
You're not DUNCANownsKOBE.
let see bronbron score 44 points in a playoff game shooting nothing but jumpers using his offhand just because he felt like doing it. until then, bird>james.
You're right. He's not the 2nd best ever. He's the best.
Lebron has a chance to cement a legacy better than that of MJ's. He's 24 right now, alreayd the best player in the league, and has a serious chance to already win les (MJ's first was at 29-30) I believe.
But Lebron seems moreso reliant on athleticism than Jordan was. Can Lebron sustain his greatness when he's 30? 31? 32? TIME WILL TELL!
Agreed. No one in his right mind could call James better than Bird at this point of his career.
is one of the greatest defensive and passing point guards in NBA history, and was such an effective post player, there's a rule change named after him.
except for idiot Blazer fans.
Lebron JamesFirst of all, I'm not a Lebron James hater. I think he is an excellent talent and a very good basketball player.
But, Mark Jackson just said on the Cavs/Pistons game that he is the second best small forward ever behind Larry Bird. What is he smoking?
Again, I think Lebron is good, even very good...but he isn't the second best small forward ever behind Larry.
Let's see where Lebron's career ends up and how many championships he's won before we give him the kind of lofty status.
I believe we are (in modern times) prisoners of the moment and lose historical perspective on the game. We do that a lot in sports.
Lastly, before I give any player "a best ever" status...he has to have won multiple championships and had an incredible statistical resume.
0 rings
0 MVPs (might get one this year)
0 Finals MVPs
2 First-team All-NBA (will be 3 this year)
Here's how he stacks up:
Elgin Baylor
10 times First-team All-NBA
John Havlicek
8 rings
4 times First-team All-NBA
1 Finals MVP
Rick Barry, Julius Erving and Scottie Pippen blow Lebron out of the water at this point as well.
Lebron has a chance to catch up or beat these guys, but he is a LONG way off at this point.
It's always tough to compare players from different eras. Nevertheless, I'd still rank Dr. J & Bird as 1 & 2 (though I'm not sure about the order) when it comes to small forwards, because I don't think you can discount Dr. J's ABA contributions (3 league MVP's, 2 les). After all, the ABA had a lot of the basketball talent during those years. (As one piece of evidence, look at the list of All-NBA and All-Defense players the year the leagues merged (1977) and you'll see a lot of ex-ABA players.)
I'm talking about his commentary skills. I agree he was a excellent player, and I actually think he should have had more than one All Star appearance, considering he was ROY. Obviously, he played in the Stockton era, which set him back as far as getting wider recognition.
Just making sure. There's a tendency sometimes to forget how good some guys were as players because they might not be great at their post-playing jobs.
Yeah Mark Jackson the commentator deserves to be fired. He sucks.
Maybe something Dirk needs as well to win the big thing. A big man in the post, something Dallas is lacking since ages.
I agree i think he may end up being the GOAT ...but right now?
It's bird, nique dr.j and Worthy then scottie then LBJ ...but i agree he has to win a le to get it.
James is better than Bird already.
James will be better when he can:
Consistently make a mid range jumpshot
Consistently make a 3 pointer
Learn to post up
Make his free throws
Hit more than 1 game winning jump shot
Win a championship
man..as i type this out, i cant help but thinking if James only dunks? lol
I think some SGs could also play SF sometimes, then our ballot will be much larger if we take them into consideration. Drexler, Mullin, Richmond...
Ancient NBA players are generally bigger than today's rosters, but they are much slower too.
not nique. he's basically a slightly less built version of bronbron.
try telling that to the guys who tried to stop nate archibald or tim hardaway.
A reach???
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