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  1. #51
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    I think Lebron played 44 minutes, which is about 10 more minutes than Kobe played.

    Look at it this way, Kobe scored 61 and led the Lakers to a blowout win against the Knicks.

    Lebron scored 50 and the Cavs barely squeaked one out at the last minute.
    kobe has no class coz he played so long in a blowout win, lebron had to be there coz the game was close

    that being said, from a bball standpoint kobes 61 was more impressive. Altho lebron did have a triple .... however his triple was gifted by ben wallace ...

    i pick duncan ....
    Last edited by anonoftheinternets; 02-05-2009 at 04:43 PM.

  2. #52
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    There's no hypocrisy here. LeBron James has never alienated his teammates. He's never run a fellow hall of famer out of town because he couldn't stand to share the limelight. He's never had massive controversy of his off-court life that called his ability to lead a team or even participate in society as a law-abiding person into question. LeBron has been, for the entire course of his short NBA career, the consummate teammate. He has led his team from the dregs of the NBA, to the Finals, and now to a truly elite position in the league. Now that Jameer Nelson is out, we're looking at an almost lock for the ECF with the Cavs and Celtics, barring any injuries.

    Kobe Bryant gets constantly bashed because it took him a decade in the league just to figure out how to live with the fact that he needs to involve other teammates in the game to win consistently. And even then, we see statlines like 61 points with 3 assists. Can you Lakers fans comfortably say that you hope he puts up points like that every night? Will that get the Lakers to the Finals?

    Kobe still gets oodles of love from analysts and highlight shows. It's not like you're going to flip on Rome is Burning and see a bunch of anti-Kobe sentiment. But when you spend an off-season criticizing your 19 year old center and telling your friends that management needs to ship him out, you set yourself up for this hate. It is just not in Kobe's character to innately trust his teammates. Meanwhile LeBron has never had an issue getting the final assist rather than the final field goal, as long as it means a win.

    LeBron is 24, Kobe is 30. If there is one of them that should have long since ceased the chase of personal glory and accolades, it should be Kobe. Most of the NBA is willing to give a pass to LeBron because even though he's young and he's going to chase the spotlight like last night, he's already become more of a team player than Kobe ever has been. He has an ego, but I seriously doubt you'll ever hear LeBron talk such pointless garbage about another player on his team like we've heard from Kobe for so many years.

    lots of rambling... typical Kobe hater stuff. Moving on.

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    lots of rambling... typical Kobe hater stuff. Moving on.
    no useful points to the discussion ...... typical kobe homer stuff

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    no useful points to the discussion ...... typical kobe homer stuff
    no useful points to the discussion ...... typical hater stuff

  5. #55
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    This duel is just starting to boil. All this is just leading up to the showdown on Sunday with the Cavs 24-0 home streak on the line.

    Make no mistake of it, both Kobe and LeBron are going at it right now. We'll find out who the loser of the duel is on Sunday night.

    And for the record, you'll never see Kobe and LeBron on the same team again.

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    This duel is just starting to boil. All this is just leading up to the showdown on Sunday with the Cavs 24-0 home streak on the line.

    Make no mistake of it, both Kobe and LeBron are going at it right now. We'll find out who the loser of the duel is on Sunday night.

    And for the record, you'll never see Kobe and LeBron on the same team again.
    Probably not. Lebron is going out of his way to top Kobe and get some "notice". I think its pointless cuz Lebron is already a great player. Trying to top Kobe individually is suicide. He should stick to doing what is making him great..which is his team ball. Forcing up shots like he took last night is just gonna hurt him more than help his cause.

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    Probably not. Lebron is going out of his way to top Kobe and get some "notice". I think its pointless cuz Lebron is already a great player. Trying to top Kobe individually is suicide. He should stick to doing what is making him great..which is his team ball. Forcing up shots like he took last night is just gonna hurt him more than help his cause.
    It's a mini-duel, only until Sunday's Lakers@Cavs game. After that, both players go back to status quo.

    Kobe started it, LeBron responded now I think they're both into it.

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    lots of rambling... typical Kobe hater stuff. Moving on.
    You mean like Kobe was hating on his 19 year old starting center for no reason at all? That kind of rambling, hater stuff?

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    You mean like Kobe was hating on his 19 year old starting center for no reason at all? That kind of rambling, hater stuff?
    The hate is strong in this one.

    It's OK, we understand. Kobe is a bad man.

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    The hate is strong in this one.

    It's OK, we understand. Kobe is a bad man.
    Please attempt to explain Kobe's actions of ridiculing a starter in his own team who's played less than one full NBA season and saying he should be shipped out. Explain how that translates into Kobe being a team player. Thanks.

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    Please attempt to explain Kobe's actions of ridiculing a starter in his own team who's played less than one full NBA season and saying he should be shipped out. Explain how that translates into Kobe being a team player. Thanks.
    That is the Old Kobe. New Kobe is a great teammate. And I personally think that lit the fire that made Bynum better. Bynum does better against when he has haters. He's not good enough for the NBA, he won't come back from that knee injury, last year was a fluke, etc.

    Crucify Kobe for his past if you wish, he was a .

    But since the season started last year, on through the Olympics and this year, Kobe's been a model teammate and one of the best team leaders in the NBA.

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    That is the Old Kobe. New Kobe is a great teammate. And I personally think that lit the fire that made Bynum better. Bynum does better against when he has haters. He's not good enough for the NBA, he won't come back from that knee injury, last year was a fluke, etc.

    Crucify Kobe for his past if you wish, he was a .

    But since the season started last year, on through the Olympics and this year, Kobe's been a model teammate and one of the best team leaders in the NBA.
    People can change. Kobe has many flaws, but I do think he has matured quite a bit from when he entered the league.

    Still it's somewhat pathetic that Spur fan thinks NBA players are moral.

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    Please attempt to explain Kobe's actions of ridiculing a starter in his own team who's played less than one full NBA season and saying he should be shipped out. Explain how that translates into Kobe being a team player. Thanks.
    well it worked, it helped Bynum get better, when Bynum entered the league he was lazy and did nothing thats why phil didnt play him much, after he heard kobe he hit the weight room

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    People can change. Kobe has many flaws, but I do think he has matured quite a bit from when he entered the league.
    It's unreal how much he has matured from when he entered the league, I never thought I'd see the day when he's a great teammate and a great team leader.

    But here it is.

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    That is the Old Kobe. New Kobe is a great teammate. And I personally think that lit the fire that made Bynum better. Bynum does better against when he has haters. He's not good enough for the NBA, he won't come back from that knee injury, last year was a fluke, etc.

    Crucify Kobe for his past if you wish, he was a .

    But since the season started last year, on through the Olympics and this year, Kobe's been a model teammate and one of the best team leaders in the NBA.
    I completely agree. Since the Bynum incident, Kobe has rapidly matured. He's a good teammate now any any team in the NBA would probably benefit from having his presence on the court.

    What pisses me off is Laker fans coming to a Spurs board to talk about LeBron James and how he will never be this or that, or that he doesn't compare to Kobe, and citing how he doesn't have rings or an outside jumper. And now this hogwash about how wrong he is for competing with Kobe and how that's a stupid thing for James to do, how his statline was overinflated, etc. It would be like a Suns fan calling another team out for playing horrible defense.

    This kind of thing is rife in every thread. There are precious few transcendent individuals in sports history who are as mature as LeBron is right now, at 24 years of age. For instance, Michael Jordan regularly attempted to one-up other people on the court. It's how he kept his fire burning. LeBron James just did something that no one has done since the MERGER. If he elevates his game to yet another level, how can that do anything but help the Cavs? Don't let that stand in the way of Lakers fans though, who will do anything they can to decry him in favor of their own messiah.

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    I completely agree. Since the Bynum incident, Kobe has rapidly matured. He's a good teammate now any any team in the NBA would probably benefit from having his presence on the court.

    What pisses me off is Laker fans coming to a Spurs board to talk about LeBron James and how he will never be this or that, or that he doesn't compare to Kobe, and citing how he doesn't have rings or an outside jumper. And now this hogwash about how wrong he is for competing with Kobe and how that's a stupid thing for James to do, how his statline was overinflated, etc. It would be like a Suns fan calling another team out for playing horrible defense.

    This kind of thing is rife in every thread. There are precious few transcendent individuals in sports history who are as mature as LeBron is right now, at 24 years of age. For instance, Michael Jordan regularly attempted to one-up other people on the court. It's how he kept his fire burning. LeBron James just did something that no one has done since the MERGER. If he elevates his game to yet another level, how can that do anything but help the Cavs? Don't let that stand in the way of Lakers fans though, who will do anything they can to decry him in favor of their own messiah.
    You and Kobe haters like yourself have been crucifying Kobe over the years for the exact same things James is doing right now.

    If that hypocrisy didn't exist, these kind of threads would never exist.

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    Spurs and Celtics

    Lakers and Cavs

    Gonna be a great Sunday!


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    Does anyone really think that if you put Kobe on the Cavs and took away Lebron, that the Cavs would have a 39-9 record? Seriously? I don't see it.

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    Does anyone really think that if you put Kobe on the Cavs and took away Lebron, that the Cavs would have a 39-9 record? Seriously? I don't see it.
    of course you dont see it. Your peskypesky. ANythign to do with kobe is negative. errr

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    Does anyone really think that if you put Kobe on the Cavs and took away Lebron, that the Cavs would have a 39-9 record? Seriously? I don't see it.
    For what it's worth, I'm not sure that LeBron on the Lakers would make them a better team, either. It might, but there is no guarantee there.

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    Kobe @ 24 years old averaged 30,6,7.........he's been hitting big #'s for a while now....

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    The league took way LeBrons triple double today. HAHAHA

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    Spurs and Celtics

    Lakers and Cavs

    Gonna be a great Sunday!

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    Melo with 62

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