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    So is Kobe.

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    4-1 with a Ginobili walking with one leg.

    LA's winning percentage in the Finals= 48 %
    Spurs' winning percentage in the Finals= 100 %
    14 > 4. How many times do you have to get owned to understand this? Nobody on this forum outside of yourself would rather have 4 rings than 14 rings.

    And Ginobili was not walking on one leg or else he wouldn't have scored 30pts in Game 3. He was impaired, but not enough to where he couldn't play. The bottom line is at least you had him available.

    Lakers had no Bynum. No Trevor Ariza. Two KEY players who make a tremendous defensive impact on the team.

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    the 48% v 100% is the most arbitrary statistic evar.

    I'd rather lose in the Finals half the time than lose in the 1st, 2nd, WCF, or MISS the playoffs that year instead.

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    14 > 4. How many times do you have to get owned to understand this? Nobody on this forum outside of yourself would rather have 4 rings than 14 rings.

    And Ginobili was not walking on one leg or else he wouldn't have scored 30pts in Game 3. He was impaired, but not enough to where he couldn't play. The bottom line is at least you had him available.

    Lakers had no Bynum. No Trevor Ariza. Two KEY players who make a tremendous defensive impact on the team.

    Do you know what percentages are all about? You can't argue with numbers and the fact that the Spurs have a better winning percentage than the Lakers in the Finals, tell the other side of the story that most Laker fans are forgetting. I suggest that you stop watching any show with Hugh Laurie in it and try understanding percentages instead.
    Last edited by ezau; 02-10-2009 at 04:56 AM.

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    the 48% v 100% is the most arbitrary statistic evar.

    I'd rather lose in the Finals half the time than lose in the 1st, 2nd, WCF, or MISS the playoffs that year instead.
    Try to win a championship and we'll talk. Sorry to blow your bubble but it appears that your team will not be winning in the next two decades. Enjoy your trolling because your team will be in rebuilding mode next season

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    Dirk is supposed to be a back to basket player. He's had 10 years in the league to master that game. David West is 6'8 or 6'9 at the most so he has to face up and shoot against bigger defenders. Dirk is taller than most PFs in the league. It's his job to post up down low.
    Why? Only because it's common? Many teams have problems to guard Dirk because he has a perimeter game. IMO that shows his ability to cause problems for other players because they are not used to his game. I read stories earlier (in the his first 3-4 years in the league) that many people criticized Dirk due to his game like "it's not common", "a guard should do his job" etc... You're talkin' about a 7-footer who is one of the best scorers in the league. Yes, he has his flaws on defense, but on offense you can't ask about much more. Up to now he has already scored over 18,000 points and if he retires with something around 25,000 I wouldn't wonder.

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    How many of those were you alive for?

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    14 > 4. How many times do you have to get owned to understand this? Nobody on this forum outside of yourself would rather have 4 rings than 14 rings.
    3 > 0. That's how many rings THIS Spurs team have won vs how many rings THIS Laker team have won. Truth is, this Laker team just falls short when it matters the most.

    And Ginobili was not walking on one leg or else he wouldn't have scored 30pts in Game 3. He was impaired, but not enough to where he couldn't play. The bottom line is at least you had him available.

    Lakers had no Bynum. No Trevor Ariza. Two KEY players who make a tremendous defensive impact on the team.
    Please. Ginobili was our leading scorer and most consistent player last season. It would be like taking Kobe out of the Lakers equation. You think you had a chance against us without Kobe?

    You have a good team right now, with a bright future. You're just going to fall short to the Spurs, a multiple-championship team. There's no shame in that at all. The time for your team to succeed will come, just not this season.

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    3 > 0. That's how many rings THIS Spurs team have won vs how many rings THIS Laker team have won. Truth is, this Laker team just falls short when it matters the most.



    Please. Ginobili was our leading scorer and most consistent player last season. It would be like taking Kobe out of the Lakers equation. You think you had a chance against us without Kobe?

    You have a good team right now, with a bright future. You're just going to fall short to the Spurs, a multiple-championship team. There's no shame in that at all. The time for your team to succeed will come, just not this season.


    So Ginobili = Kobe???


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    So Ginobili = Kobe???

    Their value towards their team is what I compared. Ginobili was the leading Spurs scorer last season. Kobe was the Lakers leading scorer.
    I was clear the first time I posted it. Obviously re s like you have reading comprehension problems.

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    14 > 4?

    Parker: 3 les, 1 Finals MVP

    Kobe: 3 les, 0 Finals MVP

    Parker > Kobe

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    14 > 4?

    Parker: 3 les, 1 Finals MVP

    Kobe: 3 les, 0 Finals MVP

    Parker > Kobe
    Wait wait.....now Parker > Kobe????


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    Sucks to be a Laker fan when you realize this team is a virgin when it comes to NBA Championships. There's always that doubt 'Are they good enough to take that last step?'. At that point you remember the complete ass beating Boston put on that team.

    Reminds me of Mav fans the year after they dropped the ball in Miami. They were winning regular season games like there was no tomorrow. Then came Golden State and the Spurs lifted the trophy.

    Or even earlier, in 2004, when the Lakers thought they had us figured out, went to choke on the Finals and had to tear that team apart. They pumped up Detroit to justify their mess, and we ended up lifting Mr Larry by beating that same Detroit team a year later.

    History has a way of repeating itself...
    I tell you what, if we win the championship this year (and beating Boston), that's some mother ing Deja Vu!

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    This edition of the Spurs are NBA championship virgins as well

    Mason and Hill weren't around for the les, same with Kurt Thomas

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    It's going to be Spurs Lakers. Nothing else matters, that's the inevitable WCF.

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    Not if our beloved mother ing MAVERICKS have anything to say about it.

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    I'm not sure what to make of the Spurs just yet.

    They've had so many close calls this year that you feel they're a little bit lucky to have achieved their 34-15 record.

    Denver and Portland have superior margin of victories, although not by much.

    If the Spurs play with fire in the last 33 like they have for the first 49, their record may not be all that impressive. Their record in close games is a tad lucky.

    I think they need to play better.

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    Oh, and Matt Bonner as the starting 5 is a gimmick if I've ever heard of one. That's like Barea starting at the 2, just won't work in the long term.

    They must address that, for no team with Bonner as the center will ever win a championship.

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    This edition of the Spurs are NBA championship virgins as well

    Mason and Hill weren't around for the les, same with Kurt Thomas
    Our core (Pop/Bowen/Manu/Tony/Timmy) is intact. You know it's what matters, the rest of the parts are replaceable. That core won championships with Barry, Finley, Mohammed, Nesterovic, Willis, Rose, SJax...

    The Lakers, on the other hand, got rid of Shaq, one of their main core guys. Can they win it with Gasol? So far they can't...

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    Oh, and Matt Bonner as the starting 5 is a gimmick if I've ever heard of one. That's like Barea starting at the 2, just won't work in the long term.

    They must address that, for no team with Bonner as the center will ever win a championship.
    I'm sure we're looking into something... that said, if Pop thinks we can fly with that, then we'll fly with that. I certainly trust more his understanding of the game than yours...

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    I think the Spurs have a shot against the Lakers if they address the gimmick that is Bonner starting at the 5 and if Bynum is out

    It's kinda odd that a 21 YO center with a history of knee injuries is a bother to the greatest PF of all time, but that's exactly what Bynum is to Duncan.

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    lakers will win the le if healthly, they are simple the best team. They made the finals without two key players. Lets see how L.A do if they stay healthly...nothing should stop them.

    unless Pop makes a move at the deadline we will be looking at losing in 5 to L.A once again.

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    It's kinda odd that a 21 YO center with a history of knee injuries is a bother to the greatest PF of all time, but that's exactly what Bynum is to Duncan.
    I would wait until they play a series in the playoffs... Tim's intensity goes up several notches then... We'll see if Bynum can handle him then...

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    Sucks to be a Laker fan when you realize this team is a virgin when it comes to NBA Championships. There's always that doubt 'Are they good enough to take that last step?'. At that point you remember the complete ass beating Boston put on that team.

    Reminds me of Mav fans the year after they dropped the ball in Miami. They were winning regular season games like there was no tomorrow. Then came Golden State and the Spurs lifted the trophy.

    Or even earlier, in 2004, when the Lakers thought they had us figured out, went to choke on the Finals and had to tear that team apart. They pumped up Detroit to justify their mess, and we ended up lifting Mr Larry by beating that same Detroit team a year later.

    History has a way of repeating itself...
    I tell you what, if we win the championship this year (and beating Boston), that's some mother ing Deja Vu!
    Except the Spurs have shown no indication that they can compete against a fully healthy Laker squad in a 7 game series.

    The Lakers frontcourt simply dominates the Spurs. The Lakers can get high percentage looks whenever they want. I'll take the team that is generating shot attempts in the paint over the team that is bombing 3's any day of the week in a 7 game series.

    The writing is on the wall. Unless the Spurs make serious changes to their front court they aren't going to the Finals.

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    Except the Spurs have shown no indication that they can compete against a fully healthy Laker squad in a 7 game series.
    They did. We're 1-1 in the season, and Manu was not even fully recovered when we beat you the first game.

    The Lakers frontcourt simply dominates the Spurs. The Lakers can get high percentage looks whenever they want. I'll take the team that is generating shot attempts in the paint over the team that is bombing 3's any day of the week in a 7 game series.
    Not true. Gasol is STILL Duncan's . There's also two tidbits about this: When Ginobili got in the paint, he did whatever he wanted (Game 1 this season). We also have beat opponents that outscored us in the paint plenty of times this season (For example, Boston last weekend). And that has to do with our improved offense. Our defense will be there when we need it. We were too beat down last season by the time we got to face you. Pop has done something about it this time around.

    The writing is on the wall. Unless the Spurs make serious changes to their front court they aren't going to the Finals.
    We're rested. We're fresh. We're healthy. If we stay that way we can beat anybody at any time. Including the Lakers.

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