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We would burn this mother!@#$%^ down!
Sounds about right FWD.....
Obviously in a perfect world we could land a big like Sheed, we're already one of the top five teams in the league, he could put us over the top.
So the idea is, how much better would we be if we added a player we didn't necessarily need position wise, but who was better than what we gave up to get him?
Not considerably better, but better, but the price tag would be considerably higher....
We would burn this mother!@#$%^ down!
Duncan hedges when the price for Carter reportedly includes Roger Mason Jr., Bruce Bowen, George Hill and Fabricio Oberto.
My guess is that Timmy is not really worried about something that is not going to happen.
I know I am not.
Didin't Duncan just get quoted for saying he doesn't want half the team to be traded for VC? Now he says he would love to play with VC? This makes no sense.
If you want my honest opinion, sounds like someone behind closed doors told him the chances of the trade going through are higher than expected.
Duncan found out Manu is injured.
Basketball wise, I can definitively see Spurs going after Carter.
Don't forget that his summer Spurs first target was Maggette, a player who would have play the same role of a dynamic scoring swingman.
While most Spurs fans were/are obsessed by adding a bigman, It's far form sure that Spurs share the same obsession. When I look back at what Spurs have done or try to do since this summer, few things have been bigmen related.
The onyl thign I don't get is how Spurs could be interested in taking a player with a that big contract. Maybe they are really high on Carter and they think he can help them to make some money with things like jersey sales.
Parker himself said he wanted the Spurs to get a bigman to back up TD against teams like the Lakers.
Howabout the Spurs get Carter, then get 'Sheed in another deal or over the summer...
This article kinda looks like an article the Spurs would want released to ease the transition for Carter. Prior to this article, Duncan basically scoffed at the idea of trading for VC. Now he's somewhat softened on the issue.
It's really tough for me to say whether I'd trade RMJ and Hill for Carter. Carter is extremely talented and if motivated, he's probably a top 15 player in the NBA. And although he's aging, he's so athletic that he'll probably still be a plus athlete in four years.
I like RMJ and Hill but Carter is definitely better than either of them. Combined, it's closer but Carter is probably still better. A lineup of the current Big Three plus Carter would undoubtedly be the most talented Spurs team in history. The chemistry would be the only question mark ... and making sure Carter doesn't turn emo.
Basically, I'll be happy either way. Getting Carter doesn't have much downside -- I'm even fine with his contract considering that the Spurs would be lucky to ever sign someone as talented as Carter in free agency.
If the Spurs stick with RMJ and Hill, that's great.
No lose situation
I agree. I do think that Carter is a better basketball player than Hill and Mason, but if we were to get Carter, I really would hate to see Hill go. I mean, the Spurs have finally found someone that can be a good backup PG, and to just trade him away like that would kill me.This article kinda looks like an article the Spurs would want released to ease the transition for Carter. Prior to this article, Duncan basically scoffed at the idea of trading for VC. Now he's somewhat softened on the issue.
It's really tough for me to say whether I'd trade RMJ and Hill for Carter. Carter is extremely talented and if motivated, he's probably a top 15 player in the NBA. And although he's aging, he's so athletic that he'll probably still be a plus athlete in four years.
I like RMJ and Hill but Carter is definitely better than either of them. Combined, it's closer but Carter is probably still better. A lineup of the current Big Three plus Carter would undoubtedly be the most talented Spurs team in history. The chemistry would be the only question mark ... and making sure Carter doesn't turn emo.
Basically, I'll be happy either way. Getting Carter doesn't have much downside -- I'm even fine with his contract considering that the Spurs would be lucky to ever sign someone as talented as Carter in free agency.
If the Spurs stick with RMJ and Hill, that's great.
No lose situation
Also, with the possibly horrible salary cap and luxury tax situation in 2010, I doubt the Spurs would be able to get a top-tier free agent like the plans were. This could be a good move, who knows.
^^ Exactly how I see itThis article kinda looks like an article the Spurs would want released to ease the transition for Carter. Prior to this article, Duncan basically scoffed at the idea of trading for VC. Now he's somewhat softened on the issue.
It's really tough for me to say whether I'd trade RMJ and Hill for Carter. Carter is extremely talented and if motivated, he's probably a top 15 player in the NBA. And although he's aging, he's so athletic that he'll probably still be a plus athlete in four years.
I like RMJ and Hill but Carter is definitely better than either of them. Combined, it's closer but Carter is probably still better. A lineup of the current Big Three plus Carter would undoubtedly be the most talented Spurs team in history. The chemistry would be the only question mark ... and making sure Carter doesn't turn emo.
Basically, I'll be happy either way. Getting Carter doesn't have much downside -- I'm even fine with his contract considering that the Spurs would be lucky to ever sign someone as talented as Carter in free agency.
If the Spurs stick with RMJ and Hill, that's great.
No lose situationI'd throw anyone but Tim (never to be traded) or Tony (in his prime) in for the chance to somehow steal Lopez, too.
The economy has really had a negative effect on the 2010 plan for a lot of teams, I bet. That's the only reason I could see the Spurs willing to pull the trigger on a VC deal right now.
Don't beat around the bush, lol, just say Ginobili!^^ Exactly how I see it
Trading Mason, Bowen, Oberto, and Hill for VC would be a horrible move.
For one thing, we'd be down another big man (Oberto), and we'd be trading away a possible future star (Hill), and a player we need now to guard Kobe (Bowen).
We are not going to mave a move unless we can get Sheed or VC on the cheap.
LOL you're right, but that's more of a testament to what I think of Lopez than any sort of diss to Manu. It just so happens that the piece we'd have to take on (VC) plays essentially the same position that Manu does.
To be fair, I think that all of the proposed scenarios for the Spurs to get VC include the Nets releasing Oberto/Bowen and the Spurs signing them back a la Brent Barry last year.
An added bonus of a Carter trade would be that the Spurs wouldn't have to be as lucky to win a championship. Right now, the Big Three has to be 100% healthy for the Spurs to win it all. Add Carter to the mix -- a player capable of carrying a team for quarters at a time -- and one of those four players could be dinged up a bit and the Spurs would still have enough talent to compensate.
It's definitely a win-now trade but this is a buyer's market that would allow the Spurs to buy low on a top level talent.
Does this mean we'd be left with Ginobili/Vaughn as backup point? Who would take that over? I see TD/TP as main starters/scorers, with Carter also in the starting lineup and taking Finley's current role. Finley on the bench with Manu as the main ballhandler and Vaughn as a placeholder would basically be going 4 vs. 5 on offense, but w/e. We'd be a small 7-8 man rotation like the Suns circa 05 IMO.
I'm not sure I want the Spurs to do away with Hill & Mason.
If its for either Hill or Mason, i say do it.
For both.....no way.
I'd rather have them replace Hill in the deal with someone else. I can live with losing Mason if we're going to get someone who can score in Carter, but losing the backup PG we've been needing for a long time? I don't think so.
I'd do it, but its too big a trade in the middle of the season for the Spurs. I don't think they'd pull the trigger, its not Spurs like. Sure would be exciting.
MLE for Sheed in the offseason
I doubt they could afford to use the MLE if they're paying a fourth superstar contract. Then again, a bird in the hand beats two in the bush, and there's no guarantee someone doesn't throw good money at Sheed.
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