Manu's Future with the Spurs

[mystargtr34]

by saying no
one word NO
that is how he would turn it down
duncan turned down money
bowen did

Yea, when Tony and his agent were crying over the fact that Gilbert Arenas was getting $2 M more over 5 years.

Bowen and Duncan are the only two to have gone that way, not Tony.

[spursfan09]

Ugh Duncan has made his millions, Tony Parker was coming off a rookie contract wasnt he?

[Mal]

If Manu returns in the 2-3 weeks as prescribed and he stays healthy the rest of the year, I have no problem with a two-year, $18-20M extension.

3 years would be great for both sides

[HarlemHeat37]

it's hard to say no, but at this point, I'd have to say no..it would take a big improvement the rest of the year for me to want Manu on the team longer than next year..he would have to take a big pay cut, and even then, I don't know..

I honestly think I would rather trade his contract next year..if teams are still trying to shed major salary next year, we'll be able to get something for him in the off-season, or at next year's deadline..

if we manage to win the le, which is unlikely(possible, but slim chance), I would take him back on the team, assuming he would have a big part in it..that's really what it would take for me..

I'm a fan of the team, not the name of the player..

[coyotes_geek]

3 years would be great for both sides

Zero percent chance of Manu getting 3 years. Two is the Magic number because that would have his contract lined up to expire the same time as Tim's which would create the opportunity for having cap space.

[Holt's Cat]

I'm not convinced we would sign anyone that would qualify as an improvement over Manu, regardless of his condition.

Exactly. Spurs fans expect players to play for free. Man I hate them.

[baseline bum]

That's a bridge the team will have to wait until 2010 to cross. Obviously Manu's next to impossible to replace, but his balls-out style, reminiscent of Bird, Iverson, and Wade, already seems to have his body breaking down. Tough call. We'll have to see how well Manu's body holds up to another year and a half of NBA basketball.

[Ditty]

i say well sign im until 2012 in 2110 when hes a free agen opefully he'll take a 2 year 6 million dollar contract

[xellos88330]

I would ask him to take a pay cut. His health has become a problem as of late, and the way he plays only compounds it. Then again, I am not making the decisions.

[Jmoney]

I'm guessing at 2010 his contract will look something like this

2010-2011 5 mil

2011-2012 5 mil base +2 mil incentive be active for 70 games=1 mil be active for all for all games= +2 mil

2012-2013 5.5 mil team option

I also expect Duncan's next contract will be in the 15 mil range and not at his current 20+ mil

The contract Tony gets will most likely be in the 18 mil range

[Typhoon]

I doubt Ginobili is going to take a pay cut, he already did it... Denver offered him a lot more money but he decided to take less to stay with the Spurs a while back.

[raspsa]

It depends on how he performs for the balance of the current season. If he finishes strong like the manu of old, give him what he wants. If he underperforms, still tru to sign him but obviosly for less.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Folks here obviously don't understand or realise the heart of a champion like Manu. He might have his wheels in cotton these days, but no one is more determined than him to be able to come back and turn things around in a matter of days. Sample his recovery from the left ankle surgery early season and his performance since comeback. My gut says Manu is back in 3 weeks and goes on to tear up the league just like last season till the late playoffs.

Knowing Pop/RCB for who they are, they will sign Manu for a contract worth $15-17 each for 2 or maybe 3 more years coinciding with Duncan's expiring years considering that performance. And knowing Manu, he *will* accept. He didn't ply his early days in Juventut for nothing. The basic philosophy guiding Manu's basketball life is simple: WIN. The other things; money for e.g. come in automatically - enough for the decent life and the pleasures of being an icon in Argentina.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Manu will stay.

How do you low-ball someone who has been grossly underpaid during his prime?

Manu will get his payday. 2 yrs $25M or so, just like Bowen did, albeit on a smaller scale.

The Spurs are a model franchise for a reason.

[holcs50]

This is easy-you really have to wait to see how he holds up health wise the next year and a half or so of ball. If he stays near full health and returns to the manu before his injury last year then you obviously pay the man for a few more years-if more injuries go on and he is obviously lacking a step or so you really gotta look elsewhere. Just going to have to wait though-no one knows right now

[Deimosfobos]

I really don't like this atm... speaking of kicking a horse when is down.

[024]

signing ginobili to what he is earning now or more will be a gamble. by 2010, he will be 33. a lot of his playing style is reliant on a young body that can absorb contact and damage. ankle injuries that have plagued him last season and this season is not a good sign. it's hard to name any guard that can consistently penetrate the lane at the age of 33. only guard i can think of is allen iverson because his health has been keeping up with him. but you can tell even iverson is slowing down. ginobili may have a heart of a champion but he does not have the 25 year old body to match.

extending him for two more years until he's 35 at $12 million+ i think is a bad investment. priority here is tim duncan, not manu ginobili. it may seem bad to offer someone who has contributed so much in past seasons less money but again, the spurs have to make every decision that would give duncan more chances of winning a championship. the spurs owe duncan more than they owe ginobili. signing ginobili to a higher contract would kill the 2010 plan to bring in young talent and force the spurs every year to gamble on ginobili's health and effectiveness. ultimately, depending on this season's playoffs and next season, spurs need to focus on tim duncan's chances not on a way to repay ginobili.

[Capt Bringdown]

Manu's fragile health cost us last year, and this year looks bad too.

Manu should take a pay cut, although that's a rather half-assed solution. It's becoming pretty clear that there will be injury drama from Manu for the rest of his career. He needs to shipped while we can still get something for him.

[Yorae]

Stop pretending troll.....

[TMTTRIO]

I can understand wanting to wait until 2010 to see where he's at and what he can produce but at the same time it could be a gamble if he does come back and shows he can contribute in the ways he has been doing. If he can, I can see some teams coming after him and still offering him a good contract and this time I think he would consider it if we didn't offer him a fair deal. He's already took less money to stay here and played the sixth man off the bench after all these years. On the other hand it looks like a lot of teams are going to be tight that year because of the cap so it may not matter. I still see a possibility that Manu goes and plays in Europe where he started his career.

[smeagol]

Why the are you guys talking about an extension when Manu has to be traded before the current contract ends . . .

[coyotes_geek]

The problem with waiting until 2010 to decide what to do with Manu is that even as a free agent he'll be hitting the Spurs cap figure at the value of a max contract. If the Spurs believe that Manu will be used up by then, then it's not a problem and the Spurs just renounce the guy and go sign someone else. But if Manu shows that he's still got something left then the Spurs are kind of in a pickle because Manu will be on the open market fielding offers and the Spurs won't be able to sign anyone else until they get something done with Manu so that his cap figure drops from the max to whatever he signs for.

If I were RC, I'd offer Manu an extension this offseason looking something like this.

$5 mil guaranteed for 2010/2011. Goes up to $10 mil if he plays in at least 70 games in 2009/2010.

$2 mil guarantee for 2011/2012. Goes up to $5 mil if he plays in at least 70 games in 2010/2011. Goes up to $10 mil if he plays in at least 70 games in 2011/2012.

[tmtcsc]

I suspect and would hope that they will offer him a 4 year deal at 8.5 Million per, with the fourth year being a team option. I can see Manu adjusting his game to be more of a perimeter player like he did last year. Because he likes to win, he'd probably accept it and retire a Spur.

[Bruno]

But if Manu shows that he's still got something left then the Spurs are kind of in a pickle because Manu will be on the open market fielding offers and the Spurs won't be able to sign anyone else until they get something done with Manu so that his cap figure drops from the max to whatever he signs for.

Spurs can renounce to Manu's bird rights if it takes time to negotiate a new contract with him.
The only drawback of doing that is that the contract will have 8% raise and not 10.5% raises. This drawback is damn small.

[MB20]

Not 10m/year. But not 5m/year either.
Everybody puts a little on the table and Manu signs for 7.5 m/year.