Manu --- the situation

[GSH]

Since I've already gone ridiculously long with this, I might as well mention one more thing. One of the risk factors for this injury is fatigue. The muscles act as shock absorbers for the skeleton. When they are weakened, more force is transferred to the bones. That, in turn, can cause stress reaction/fracture.

Could Manu's summer schedules have contributed to either one of these injuries. Without a doubt. Overtraining can be a direct cause of this kind of injury (esp. distance runners). And age is a factor as well. What is acceptable at 25 may be too much at 35. People who say there is no such thing as overtraining are full of crap.

, since you're really bored... overtraining can result in a decrease in testosterone, which can be a contributor to osteopenia (bone loss). That is a risk factor for stress reaction/fracture as well.

Bottom line: the way Manu plays, he should probably be taking Summers off.

[Spursfan092120]

Long time, first time. Signed up eons ago. Never commented. Til now

The Manu situation as told to me from a first hand persective. Manu has a sore ankle. Feels wobbly on the ankle but limited inflammation so he continues to play. Midseason break arrives and he takes off three full days. Works outs commence. Ankle still sore and wobbly.

Docs notice ankle is tender to touch so xrays taken. Negative. MRI. Negative. CT scan. Damage to osteoblasts a few inches above the ankle. Multiple hairline fractures possible on fibula. Recovery six weeks to two months.

Three phase bone scan ordered. Diagnoses downgraded. Stress reaction requiring seven to fifteen days of air cast. During this stage electrotherapy in addition to pool based calf and foot exercises. Following stage consists of five to seven days of regular activity. If bone scan shows improvement, clearance will be given. To clear up a few matters. Manu never faced the peril of being out for the season. Worst case scenario had him returning during first set of the playoffs. If all goes well he could be rehabilitating only 12 to 13 days. Worst case about one month. Be aware that he will have to undergo testing throughout to chart the health of the fibula. If situation worsens he would have to repeat the phases. Likelihood of reoccurrence is 20 to 30 percent. Thank you and god bless.

Thanks for the info..we really appreciate it. A lot of people in this forum were jumping off cliffs..lol...it's good to hear it's not near as bad. And to make it better, he's already been off it for a week, which helps. You made my day a lot better. I appreciate it.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Thank you very much Manu32 for all of the information.

I really appreciate it.

Also, I want to thank GSH for the medical info too.

[raspsa]

Must be a macho argentinean thing.. first Oberto plays injured w/o telling Pop until he could no longer play and now manu's situation.

[timvp]

thanks GSH. I pasted some of your posts to manu's site.

hopefully he can sees it and behave himself this time.

Has Manu said anything yet? Any transcript from what his brother had to say?

Thanks.

[quentin_compson]

I was really really scared yesterday. Well, looks like it was "Glück im Unglück", as we Germans say.
If Pop says Manu will be out 2 or 3 weeks, I guess that means it will be 3 weeks or more, which makes sense because you have to be careful with a guy who has had injuries on both of his ankles. Let's just hope Manu will be able to get in game shape before the Playoffs start, otherwise we don't stand a chance.

All the best to Manu!

[easjer]

Thanks all for the info. Good news indeed (as these things go).

[taps]

Just waking up in the morning gotta thank god

I don't know but today seems kinda odd

[word]

'Diagnosis downgraded'

I just hope the doublespeak here doesn't translate to 'Spurs playoff and 09/10 season tickets go on sale here in a couple of weeks. He fine. Trust me. '

[TMTTRIO]

Has Manu said anything yet? Any transcript from what his brother had to say?

Thanks.

Speaking of Manu responding he just did but he hasn't said much about it though. Of course google doesn't make it any better. I think this will be his only post for a while.


http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewto...1730&start=100

Bueno! Muchas gracias por la clase de medicina a todos!

No se quienes son los autores originales de esos parrafos, pero me vinieron bien. La mayoria ya me lo habian dicho, otras cosas, no.

Como siempre, fuente inagotable de conocimientos este foro!

Saludos a todos y gracias como siempre por el apoyo.

[gwidlon]

he found the post usefull. mostly he knew, but he learned some new things about his condition
he thanks the support and he seems on very good mood

[mystargtr34]

Yeah, the Spurs could have done as much wheeling and dealing as they wanted at the trade deadline but with no Manu, the season would have basically been over.

Do you think the Spurs make a harder push and basically go all out for Carter, if news of Manu's ankle was worse. That could have salvaged the season somewhat, but they probably have to give up Mason + Hill + Fillers.

It leaves them without depth like last year.

[Manufan909]

I wonder how much this affected the Camby trade. I wonder if Manu had been good, would it have gone through? I guess we'll never know.

[quentin_compson]

I wonder how much this affected the Camby trade. I wonder if Manu had been good, would it have gone through? I guess we'll never know.

Well, if it is true that the Spurs offered Bowen/Oberto/Hill for Camby and the Clippers turned it down, then there would be no connection at all.

[itzsoweezee]

i hope he takes his time coming back. no need to risk anything before the playoffs. spurs can still get a top 2 seed without him, but they've got no shot to get to the finals if he's not playing.

[wildbill2u]

It's been rumored that some Spurs staff and players scan this forum, probably without posting lest they give away their iden y. Manu32 has the ring of one of these insiders.

Welcome to you Manu32. If you decided to make some inside info known in a time of great uncertainty, we thank you. We love the Spurs from top to bottom although sometimes we cuss them for not being perfect. Comes with the territory of rabid fans.

Stop by and post more often. WE won't tell. Honest.

[urunobili]

Has Manu said anything yet? Any transcript from what his brother had to say?

Thanks.

http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewto...=384674#384674

Manu:

Bueno! Muchas gracias por la clase de medicina a todos!

No se quienes son los autores originales de esos parrafos, pero me vinieron bien. La mayoria ya me lo habian dicho, otras cosas, no.

Como siempre, fuente inagotable de conocimientos este foro! Wink

Saludos a todos y gracias como siempre por el apoyo.

Nice! Thank you very much for the medicine class everyone!

I don;t know who the authors of those lines are, but they did good on me. The mayority i"ve heard b4, some other stuff no.

As always a never ending source of knowledge this forum is

Hi to everyone and thanks for the support, as always.

[timvp]

Do you think the Spurs make a harder push and basically go all out for Carter, if news of Manu's ankle was worse. That could have salvaged the season somewhat, but they probably have to give up Mason + Hill + Fillers.

It leaves them without depth like last year.

Yeah if Manu's ankle ended up being season-ending, I could certainly envision the Spurs going all out for Carter, Jefferson and Salmons. With Ginobili expected to return, they weren't nearly as desperate.

[adidas11]

Thank you for the information.

[timvp]

I wonder how much this affected the Camby trade. I wonder if Manu had been good, would it have gone through? I guess we'll never know.

If anything, the news getting better on Manu allowed them to drop the Carter discussions and look to get a big.

[callo1]

I hope Manu gets well soon. I had some issues with stress fractures before, so I can relate.

The absolute Godsend for me was a very little known Indian herb which eliminated my problem when nothing else seemed to help.

I don't sell it, I have nothing to gain by saying this. I know alot of weekend athletes out there (especially leapers) get stress fractures.

Cissus Quadrangularis is what I took to end my problems with stress fractures.

Here is an article about this stuff since so few perople have ever heard of it before...I hope this helps someone.

http://cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/a...icle.php?id=15

[timvp]

http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewto...=384674#384674

Manu:

Bueno! Muchas gracias por la clase de medicina a todos!

No se quienes son los autores originales de esos parrafos, pero me vinieron bien. La mayoria ya me lo habian dicho, otras cosas, no.

Como siempre, fuente inagotable de conocimientos este foro! Wink

Saludos a todos y gracias como siempre por el apoyo.

Nice! Thank you very much for the medicine class everyone!

I don;t know who the authors of those lines are, but they did good on me. The mayority i"ve heard b4, some other stuff no.

As always a never ending source of knowledge this forum is

Hi to everyone and thanks for the support, as always.

Thanks for the translation

[Brutalis]

His ankle is very important for how he plays. That is what I think about. With a sore ankle myself, I have no idea how to get into a game because it rolls easily, so I stay quiet, take jumpers and am not real aggressive towards to the rim or on defense. And it seems like the more I see him taking jumpers the more I worried.

All I know is I am glad he will have a chance to be 100 percent again, and am curious to see what he does when he is back.

[DaDakota]

Now is the time guys...TMAC for Manu....come on.....



Get well Manu....

DD

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

I wish I knew who manu32 is! While I'm sympathetic to the Spurs and their fans,...this is a GREAT opportunity for my Blazers! I can see us getting the #2 seed now BABY!

tlong, your team isn't catching the Spurs/Nuggets Enjoy the 4th/5th seed