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    2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, Oberto springs wide open free under the bucket for two layups.

    Who was guarding Oberto?
    Oberto had a back cut a game just about everygame in the 07 playoff run. Don't act like it was all of a sudden there when Gooden was guarding him.

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    Joe Smith > Kurt Thomas?


    Lay off the weed
    Kurt is better defensively and is a better rebounder. Smith is better offensively. With those two its pick or choose.

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    Oberto had a back cut a game just about everygame in the 07 playoff run. Don't act like it was all of a sudden there when Gooden was guarding him.

    No but in game 4 desperate time, you leave your man wide open for a layup because you don't give that much of a on defense?

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    No but in game 4 desperate time, you leave your man wide open for a layup because you don't give that much of a on defense?
    lol Oberto had wide open layups just about everygame. From the Denver series, to the suns series, to the jazz series. The Jazz series was Oberto's coming out party. Not the Cavs.

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    lol Oberto had wide open layups just about everygame. From the Denver series, to the suns series, to the jazz series. The Jazz series was Oberto's coming out party. Not the Cavs.

    So through all those series you have tapes on the guy making that play, and you still leave him open?

    Whatever, your too set in "gooden = golden god" to be talked to.

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    Looking for help: According to one Western Conference executive, the Spurs are one of several championship contenders interested in signing forward Drew Gooden.

    Gooden, acquired on trade deadline day by Sacramento, was released by the Kings on Sunday night, beating the league deadline for eligibility on another team’s playoff roster.

    Gooden, a 6-foot-10 power forward in his seventh season, has had problems with a groin injury this season. He played his first game for the Kings on Feb. 25, when he scored 12 points and had 13 rebounds against Charlotte. But he left the game in the fourth period after aggravating the injury. He did not play in Sacramento’s next two games.
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118437

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    Good call but I don't see why you're advocating signing him now....it's just coveting points.

    I'd rather sign Horry...

    , I actully like Joe Smith better...he's a Kevin Willis type dude, and he's at least willing to be an enforcer. Yeah I know he ed with Drob...but compared to what Gooden's got to offer that's a positive.

    PS: Anybody that can piss Drob off that bad has value to me IMHO, because that wasn't easy to do....Drob was about 2 seconds away from dunking Smith's ass.

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    It's interesting whottt would be against signing Gooden considering Gooden is the less expensive, more skilled version of his man-crush Elson . . .

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    [QUOTE=EricB;3155366]So through all those series you have tapes on the guy making that play, and you still leave him open?




    It's called Tim Duncan having the ball.

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    I guess I'm just so inferior when it comes to common sense because I don't go to GTG or have a million posts. I watch a lot of games and with my common sense, the addition of drew gooden would improve the Spurs. That's just my opinion, which is just as good as yours. You don't have to agree with it. All i know is this. There's a reason why Pop and R.C are going after him.
    Your common sense doesn't seem to understand that Ben Wallace has a broken femur and that that is a factor in the Cavs interest...why not?

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    All i've said is Gooden would improve the Spurs with our thin frontline. I have yet to state Gooden is any sort of god.But again your being irrational once again.

    Gooden is a solid rebounder. Second chance points killed us in the Lakers series last year.

    For the minimum, signing gooden is a no brainer.

    Sure sign him.

    DOn't about how many open layups to Gasol he gives up when he does.

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    I don't see why not. We could use him. a big man rotation of TD, Bonner, Thomas, Gooden, and Oberto mixed in with some Pops sounds good to me. I think he just didnt care about D so much because he was on bad teams who didnt really emphasis it. He should be fine here with the guidance of TD and Pop.

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    Your common sense doesn't seem to understand that Ben Wallace has a broken femur and that that is a factor in the Cavs interest...why not?
    Really ? lol I guess hes the only man that's 6'10" or taller that's available.

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    Waive Jacque Vaughn and Udoka. Sign Gooden and Horry. Bonner can sell popcorn.

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    It's interesting whottt would be against signing Gooden considering Gooden is the less expensive, more skilled version of his man-crush Elson . . .
    Hmmm, I don't see the parallel at all. Elson was a loose cannon that could be disruptive as on both sides of the ball...Gooden is a scoring primadonna that stops caring the second the ball leaves his hands..

    It's one thing for a guy to be a ty defender, it's another thing for them to be flat out lazy in the defensive side of the ball...I just don't like Gooden's mix...it's not like he's a great offensive player.

    And that "at ude" you spoke of has a lot to do with his defense.


    Put it this way...if the Spurs sign Gooden, I predict you will see Pop go completely ape over this guy just flatout ing tanking it on a defensive play like no other player has done in a Spurs Uniform during his tenure. Beyond all doubt this guy will be the worst defensive player to ever play for Pop...and he'll be that because of his at ude. I call that a waste of time and recipe for disaster. And that's saying someting when you consider Glenn Robinson played for the Spurs.

    And Gooden hasn't been humbled yet like Bigg Dogg had...plus, Big Dogg was a better player....he was pure shooting gold. Gooden's just an asshat.

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    Hmmm, I don't see the parallel at all. Elson was a loose cannon that could be disruptive as on both sides of the ball...Gooden is a scoring primadonna that stops caring the second the ball leaves his hands..

    It's one thing for a guy to be a ty defender, it's another thing for them to flat out lazy in the densive side of the ball...I just don't like Gooden's mix.

    That "at ude" you spoke of has a lot to do with his defense.


    Put it this way...if the Spurs sign Gooden, I predict you will see Pop go completely ape over this guy just flatout ing tanking it on a defensive play like no other player has done in a Spurs Uniform during his tenure. Beyond all doubt this guy will be the worst defensive player to ever play for Pop...and he'll be that because of his at ude. I call that a waste of time and recipe for disaster. And that's saying someting when you consider Glenn Robinson played for the Spurs.

    And Gooden hasn't been humbled yet like Bigg Dogg had...plus, Big Dogg was a better player....he was pure shooting gold. Gooden's just an asshat.
    He is better than Oberto and Bonner... WTF? come on Beyonce.. upgrade.

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    Gooden has $ to play for this summer. NBA players show up for that. Look at Bonner this year.

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    groin injury...

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    .... Bonner is our starting center, defensively it can't get much worse. At least Gooden can hit the boards hard.

    I don't see the downside in signing him.

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    Hmmm, I don't see the parallel at all. Elson was a loose cannon that could be disruptive as on both sides of the ball...Gooden is a scoring primadonna that stops caring the second the ball leaves his hands..

    It's one thing for a guy to be a ty defender, it's another thing for them to be flat out lazy in the defensive side of the ball...I just don't like Gooden's mix...it's not like he's a great offensive player.

    And that "at ude" you spoke of has a lot to do with his defense.


    Put it this way...if the Spurs sign Gooden, I predict you will see Pop go completely ape over this guy just flatout ing tanking it on a defensive play like no other player has done in a Spurs Uniform during his tenure. Beyond all doubt this guy will be the worst defensive player to ever play for Pop...and he'll be that because of his at ude. I call that a waste of time and recipe for disaster. And that's saying someting when you consider Glenn Robinson played for the Spurs.

    And Gooden hasn't been humbled yet like Bigg Dogg had...plus, Big Dogg was a better player....he was pure shooting gold. Gooden's just an asshat.
    Kind of like how Rodman was with the Spurs and that carried over when he went to play of a real winner in Chicago right?

    Give the guy a chance especially for the minimum I can't see how you could be against singing a big that would be our 2nd or best rebounder and won't be a liability on the offensive end.

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    .... Bonner is our starting center, defensively it can't get much worse. At least Gooden can hit the boards hard.

    I don't see the downside in signing him.
    Amen

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    to the father...

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    Kind of like how Rodman was with the Spurs and that carried over when he went to play of a real winner in Chicago right?

    Give the guy a chance especially for the minimum I can't see how you could be against singing a big that would be our 2nd or best rebounder and won't be a liability on the offensive end.

    Now your confusing lazy with nuts.

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    .... Bonner is our starting center, defensively it can't get much worse. At least Gooden can hit the boards hard.

    I don't see the downside in signing him.

    Defensively Gooden is worse than Bonner.

    YES. HE IS.

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    Really ? lol I guess hes the only man that's 6'10" or taller that's available.
    Cavs are competing for a chapionship and he is extremely familiar with their team, they know him...and it saves them a lot of developing on the fly time.

    Spurs aren't in their situation...

    On top of that there's not much you can complain about offensively from Bonner...if you want more offense from that slot, tell Bonner to take more shots. But that's a bad option, because Bonner will be taking those shots away from players that are better than he is...

    So will Gooden...difference is Bonner doesn't want to do that, whereas Gooden will have no such qualms, and he'll do it playing worse D than Bonner.

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