Sorry obama I draw the line at embryonic destruction

[leo_d]

Why won't any of you answer this question?

i didn`t answer because is a pretty obvious answer. of course im against it.

[smeagol]

You asked a loaded ing question to begin with by inserting the word random. I answered your loaded question. And then a non-loaded version. Point blank I said yes or no to each. WTF else do you want? I don't really know, but to come back with:

"uh, so... you support killing babies at 8 months then," is ing garbage. And you're smart enough that I'd guess you know it.

Your answer was pretty vague.

So tell me, at what point in the pregnancy should abortions be banned and why?

[Bartleby]

Why won't any of you answer this question?

[LnGrrrR]

Your answer was pretty vague.

So tell me, at what point in the pregnancy should abortions be banned and why?

Do you agree with murder?

[balli]

Your answer was pretty vague.

So tell me, at what point in the pregnancy should abortions be banned and why?

How the is yes or no vague. That's about as clear an answer as you can get. And it was a stupid, loaded question to begin with.

20 weeks. When the fetus and its nervous system are developed enough to transmit pain.

[George Gervin's Afro]

How the is yes or no vague. That's about as clear an answer as you can get. And it was a stupid, loaded question to begin with.

20 weeks. When the fetus and its nervous system are developed enough to transmit pain.

I think this is fair.

[smeagol]

How the is yes or no vague. That's about as clear an answer as you can get. And it was a stupid, loaded question to begin with.

It was vague because it had no dates.

20 weeks. When the fetus and its nervous system are developed enough to transmit pain

So you think there is a big difference between 19 weeks and 20 weeks?

You also think all babies develop at the same time (ie no fetuses feel pain at 19 weeks)?

[George Gervin's Afro]

It was vague because it had no dates.



So you think there is a big difference between 19 weeks and 20 weeks?

You also think all babies develop at the same time (ie no fetuses feel pain at 19 weeks)?

You asked for as specific time frame and he gave it to you. If you don't like the answer tough .

[balli]

It was vague because it had no dates.

Your question specifically went out of the way to ask me if I supported abortion at quote-unquote, some random date. You want a good answer, ask a question that deserves it.

So you think there is a big difference between 19 weeks and 20 weeks?

You also think all babies develop at the same time (ie no fetuses feel pain at 19 weeks)?

I have no idea, I'm not a doctor, but you have to draw a line somewhere and if the general medical consensus is that a fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks, then that's what I'm going to go on. If there's a fetus out there somewhere who develops faster, ts for that kid, it will all be over soon.

[RandomGuy]

Dude you.

I'm tempted to go dig up that couple month old Cucking post on abortion. She absolutely skull ed the anti-abortion movement.

???

Could you? I would be interested in reading that bit of perspective.

[ratm1221]

If there's a fetus out there somewhere who develops faster, ts for that kid, it will all be over soon.

I try to stay out of the abortion debate, but that is funny right there...

[RandomGuy]

For those who oppose this type of research because life is destroyed will you answer the following question.

How do you feel about the embryonic cells being discarded if not used?

An intresting question. If one is really against abortion for whatever reason, then you have to figure out an ethical way of bringing these potential people to term.

Volunteers would be the most obvious answer, but how do you screen such volunteer women?

In the event of a miscarriage, do you charge them with murder? negligence?

Sticky wicket.

[smeagol]

I have no idea, I'm not a doctor, but you have to draw a line somewhere and if the general medical consensus is that a fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks, then that's what I'm going to go on. If there's a fetus out there somewhere who develops faster, ts for that kid, it will all be over soon.

That is the problem with abortion. It is impossible to draw a line. It is clear that you don't care too much for the lives of the un-born.

[RandomGuy]

An intresting question. If one is really against abortion for whatever reason, then you have to figure out an ethical way of bringing these potential people to term.

Volunteers would be the most obvious answer, but how do you screen such volunteer women?

In the event of a miscarriage, do you charge them with murder? negligence?

Sticky wicket.

If one doesn't charge the women who miscarry, then you do so under the principle of "it was God's will" or no one was at fault.

How is this then distinguished from simply disposing of the embroyos anyways?

If it was God's ultimate decision that the miscarried embryos were to die, then would not that logic hold for embryos disposed of?

[balli]

That is the problem with abortion. It is impossible to draw a line. It is clear that you don't care too much for the lives of the un-born.

In my most radical view, compared to the lives of the already born? No, not really. There's too damn many people in this world.

Look, I'm not some activist. At the end of the day, abortion's not one of my issues. But I'm pro-choice. Just like I'm pro-choice on guns, just like I'm pro-choice on drugs; and on any other issue you want to throw at me besides rape, murder and paying your taxes, I'm probably gonna be pro-choice. So don't act like I'm waging some campaign of murder against the unborn, when all I'm doing is sympathizing with the rights of the living.

This Pro-Abortion has got to go, it's pro-choice and it's what Cucking was talking about in her post.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=171

[ChumpDumper]

That is the problem with abortion. It is impossible to draw a line. It is clear that you don't care too much for the lives of the un-born.

Eh, most people don't care about the lives of the born either -- they're just dropping the pretense earlier.

[sook]

guess what so are my sperm. Whats the difference? Jeez folks shutup

[sook]

Btw, we don't even need embryonic stem cells anymore.

It is quite recent but we have been able to take ordinary cells and take them back to stem cells

[LnGrrrR]

That is the problem with abortion. It is impossible to draw a line. It is clear that you don't care too much for the lives of the un-born.

I'm still waiting for you to answer the question on whether you support murder or not.

[smeagol]

I'm still waiting for you to answer the question on whether you support murder or not.

Only in some cases.

[leo_d]

people who insist on labeling pro-choice supporters as pro-abortionists are complete and utter ing morons. I have yet to meet someone who is pro-abortion

So, this is all it takes for you rationalize abortion: semantics.

I guess if you had lived in the early 19 century you would have say "i would never own a slave, but i think people has the right to own them"

[implacable44]

Dude you.

I'm tempted to go dig up that couple month old Cucking post on abortion. She absolutely skull ed the anti-abortion movement.

Of course she did because you agreed with everything she said because it fits your idiotology. I have never seen or heard anyone dominate the abortion discussion and it is a direct reflection of your intellectual honesty to say such.

[LnGrrrR]

Only in some cases.

Which cases, specifically?

[George Gervin's Afro]

That is the problem with abortion. It is impossible to draw a line. It is clear that you don't care too much for the lives of the un-born.

I don't care about a fertilized egg. Your right. I also don't care for people having children they can't take care of. I don't care for people who torture and murder thier children. I don't care for people who proclaim to be pro life but support the death penalty. I don't care for people who are pro life yet don't want birth control being talked about. I don't care for people who want to force people to have babies and then oppose any type of social programs or funding to take care of those children. Your right I don't care.

[DarrinS]

I don't care about a fertilized egg. Your right. I also don't care for people having children they can't take care of. I don't care for people who torture and murder thier children. I don't care for people who proclaim to be pro life but support the death penalty. I don't care for people who are pro life yet don't want birth control being talked about. I don't care for people who want to force people to have babies and then oppose any type of social programs or funding to take care of those children. Your right I don't care.

Who's forcing people to have babies?