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They're tired of all the pussy players and pussy fans that have taken over the league. They need to get rid of all of these bull suspensions and make players man up like they used to.
Based on what other than the Ariza and Bynum incident?
They're tired of all the pussy players and pussy fans that have taken over the league. They need to get rid of all of these bull suspensions and make players man up like they used to.
it wasn't even a damn flagrant, wow pussies these days.
I was expecting it to be brutal and then saw it, and ariza clearly went for the block and got pretty much all ball, rudy just oculdn't control his balance too well
Frankly, I don't understand why the nba doesn't protect this kind of situations...
When you're going for the dunk in the open court is the most spectacular movement, people loves it and the nba makes a lot of advertising through these images.
But in that moment the player is completely vulnerable, 'cause he's in the air, with eyes only to the basket and trying to execute a perfect movement...no way in somebody may be enabled to hurt you from behind...in any sort of way.
In this particular case, Ariza has first knocked Rudy's head, then the rest...also if he was trying to get the ball, that was a very, very dangerous defensive attempt, and it's been executed in the worst kind of way.
That's the better way to put it...(the other is that he was going for the man, and in that, possible if not probable, case, imho, he was going to voluntarly put the player's health in grave danger...deserving something more than some days of suspension).
That's the completely wrong message sent by the nba :players better put a lay up in any situation, and if you dunk in the open court it's at your own risk, 'cause some head is enabled to hurt you from behind...
Says the Lakers homer..if it was Kobe, you'd be screaming for a suspension..and you'd get one...look at thisOdom never set foot on the floor. He simply stepped out of bounds were Roy was trying to start a riot in front of the Lakers bench and prevented his teammate from being rushed by some of Portlands s.
Good call on this one league. I expect Odom will excape clean too.
Come on..there's no way in Ariza was going for the ball. Trevor should be suspended, as should Odom..But as expected, Stern's Lakers are going to get away with it.
That's not the question -- it doesn't matter where he goes. What matters is whether he left the bench during an altercation. He could have gotten up to go to the bathroom and, by the letter of the law, would have been due a suspension -- no discretion, no concerns for intent, a suspension.
As do I, however I really wish the media didn't continuously bring it up so Robert Sarver can continually make the same tired excuse as to why he didn't look to improve the team at all the last two off seasons.
Whether or not the Suns were truly the better team in 2007, him using that as the reason why the Suns did nothing in the 2007 off season is a crock of , because the Suns would have gotten swept by the Spurs in 2007 if they didn't have Kurt Thomas. D'antoni should have been fired after that series, they shouldn't have pissed a season away giving him a year he didn't deserve.
No. There have been several hard fouls that only got single game or no suspensions.
Big Baby on Varejao with no suspension
Zach only getting 2 games for hitting Louis Amundson.
David West only one game for hunting down and taking out Mike Miller.
Kendrick Perkins not suspended for the takedown on Maxiell
Tyson Chandler only getting 1 game for going after Pryzbilla
As hard as its to believe its not just LA.
And what if he didn't leave the bench?
That's what the NBA has to be debating. Its easy to argue he never left the bench even as he stepped towards the altercation.
Yeah I know, Perkins and big baby get away with just as much . If Boston wasn't allowed to set illegal screens Perkins would have to retire.
I agree with you there. But the question of whether he left the bench has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he went on the floor. From what I've seen, he took more than a step away from the bench, which should be enough to put him outside of the bench area and compel a suspension.
But, frankly, my guess is that Odom isn't suspended and that the league, after castrating the Suns with its "letter of the law" edict in 2007 has decided that a letter of the law policy can have a little more flexibility than it did in 2007.
If that happens, Suns fans have every right to be legitimately pissed.
That's just it - he never went on the floor/court. He never stepped on or across that line.
If he's still on the bench then how did he leave the bench and warrant as suspension?
Amare/Diaw ran out near to halfcourt, passes the "coaches box" line, to wear Nash was hit at.
1:32 mark shows them clearly where Nash fell. No way that can be considered the bench.
I really won't know what to say if Odom isn't suspended. I really just wish the Suns and their fan base could move the on and stop harping on it. We've got more important stuff to worry about, like oh, I don't know, the fact Sarver is on a committee who's goal is to get an NBA team in Vegas.
He left the bench. The only people that say otherwise are Laker homers. Understandable but stil BS.
Unfortunately Stern is a bigger Laker homer than anyone on this board so......
But that's not what the rule says. In fact, it provides: "During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench." A player can most certainly leave the bench area without ever going on the floor. You keep worrying about whether he went on the floor, but all he had to do was leave the bench area. If you're contending that the bench area includes space 10-15 feet down the baseline towards the basket, I'd say your definition is pretty liberal and not really compliant with the intent of the rule.
How is a guy who is at least 10 feet from the bench "still on the bench?"
Agreed. That's why they were suspended. The fact that they went further than Odom did doesn't mean that Odom stayed in the immediate vicinity of his bench, though.
For anyone saying that Ariza did not hit Rudy's head, they are blind. There was definite contact between Rudy's back of the head and around Ariza's Elbow during the wreckless swing.
As to Odom, while he was close to the bench area, he should get suspended because he was not one of the 5 lakers in the game at the time and he definitely entered into the outskirts of the fray when he should have stayed back. If it was not for his couple of steps forward and participating in body and words, I would agree that he probably does not deserve to be suspended
Have you ever played basketball? Have you ever blocked a shot from behind? It's easy to block a shot from behind. You time your jump so that you can get your hand on top of the ball as he brings it up to shoot. Then you block it. If you really have your hand way over the ball, you can pull it towards you and take it away at the same time.
The play where you take a swipe at the ball is if you haven't timed your jump and you don't have enough height to get on top of the ball. It's almost always a foul unless you get it just right.
STERN hates small market teams!!!! WAHHH!!! WAHHH!!!! WAHHH!!!!!
How is a guy who is at least 10 feet from the bench "still on the bench?" When he has Lakers / Celtics on the front of his jersey.
All those examples, they all got at least a 1 game suspension. Except, of course, for Celtics or Lakers players. Typical.
Stu Jackson is as biased as they come. He absolutely plays favorites.
This should have been a multi-game suspension for a deliberate attempt to injure. A one-game suspension would be inadequate but would be something. To suspend him for ZERO GAMES is a joke. This is worse than a slap on the wrist. It's a free pass.
It's a wink saying "If you're the Lakers, you are allowed to physically abuse other teams if they have the gall to beat you."
The Lakers lost nothing by having him ejected, and he lost nothing. The game was already over (they were down 30 at the end of the 3rd).
He is just going to play in the next game like nothing happened.
On the other hand, last year the Spurs lost Bruce Bowen for a game for doing literally nothing except get hit in the nuts by Prince Golden Boy (aka Chris Paul). Stu Jackson again played favorites.
The NBA is apparently all about protecting the American "superstars" (Kobe, LeBron, Paul, Wade) that the league has decided are the reason they make money.
The Stu Jackson regime in the NBA is a joke. He should be fired.
I only posted the Phoenix clip because other's brought it up as a comparison.
"At least 10 feet"? He was hardly 5 and appeared to be within arm's length. If he was 10 he'd already be suspended.
I'm not saying the bench should be 10-15 feet away, but the league obviously have given leeway already when players are "on the bench". The bench hasn't been defined by just the chairs for a while.
Yes I've played and coached. So bad timing warrants a suspension?
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