Sea levels are rising twice as fast as had been thought

[DarrinS]

Right... and thousands of Americans die in car accidents. Does that mean we should spend billions developing crash proof cars?

Actually, millions of dollars have been spent to make cars safer. It is still the number one cause of death of teenagers.

The odds of dying or being injured in a terrorist accident are miniscule. But it can garner alot of money/attention because it's sensational.

I think the overall point is the same, that sensational tactics are used on both sides (TERRORISTS ARE COMING TO KILL YOU! GLOBAL WARMING WILL DESTROY ALL OF US!) to the same effect. Both can be justified to some extent, but neither side will recognize that the other is using the same type of argument.

Actually, I'm more concerned about what's going on along the Texas-Mexico border than I am about Islamic terrorists.


By the way, had temperatures continued to climb past 1998, I would be a lot more convinced that global warming was a serious problem. But, over the last 10 years, the global temperature anomaly has been pretty stable.

[LnGrrrR]

Actually, millions of dollars have been spent to make cars safer. It is still the number one cause of death of teenagers.

Yes, but it rarely gets the sort of sensationalist coverage like terrorism/global warming tends to attract. I gues smy point is that terrorist prevention receives more than its fair share of coin as opposed to the actual incidents that have occurred.

It's mainly because terrorism/global security are 'all-or-nothing' type of categories. If you reduce car crashes 5% in a year, you can brag, even if there's still thousands of car crashes that year. However, one terrorist attack is enough for many people to justify extreme amounts of spending.

Actually, I'm more concerned about what's going on along the Texas-Mexico border than I am about Islamic terrorists.

I'm for a more open border honestly. I think if we were to allow more unskilled workers, we'd have less trying to cross illegally, and the people we let in legally we would at least get taxes from.

The biggest problem right now is finding enough people to perform security clearances on people; most applications are backed up as .

[101A]

If it does happen, how would you explain it?



What if the data showed a slowdown in solar radiation, and temperatures still went up along with CO2 concentrations?

A graph showing causality between Human CO2 emissions and temperature - cause and effect that was obvious? You'd have my attention.

[Yonivore]

If I produced a paper, you wouldn't believe it, because it would challenge your pre-existing beliefs, why should I bother looking? You would automatically assign it, no matter how credible or good the science was, as "unreliable".

Try me. I've yet to see a serious scientific paper that makes those claims.

Do me a favor.

Assume, just for the sake of argument, you are wrong.

When/how will you/we know? Assuming of course our knowledge base on the issue continues to get better every year.

I doubt we will since the most dire consequences being predicted happen after you and I are dead. They've (alarmists) learned not to predict consequences that might take place when we're still around to call them the fools they are.

But, take it from a person who lived through the global cooling hysteria (frozen tundra in Florida, I believe was the prediction) and the global population hysteria (we'll all be starving by the year 2000) and the Y2K silliness (planes falling from the sky) of the previous century.

This too shall pass and be shown to be as idiotic as the other three scenarios. No one has yet to convince me that man has any appreciable ability to affect (long term) global climate.

[LnGrrrR]

But, take it from a person who lived through the global cooling hysteria (frozen tundra in Florida, I believe was the prediction) and the global population hysteria (we'll all be starving by the year 2000) and the Y2K silliness (planes falling from the sky) of the previous century.

Ha! Y2K. I bought plane tickets for that day... they were really cheap. Great bargain.

If someone wants to worry about technological hazards, they should worry about how easy it is to perform cyber attacks/denial.