More Hope and Change

[johnsmith]

Manny, you going to complain to Kori that I'm being mean to you like you have in the past?

[Gino]

My su ion that you were being disingenuous with your question was accurate.

You owe me an apology.

My su ion is you dont know what "disingenuous" means.

My motives were perfectly clear.

But its sooooo like you to harp on grammar or technicalities in someone's post rather than just answering the question.

I'll give you another chance. Same question:

Has anyone, besides me, asked why we passed a 700 billion dollar stimulus that doesnt even spend much money until the year the white house expects the GDP to grow by 3.2%? <--- correct number

No excuses, now, Chumpdumper. Just answer the question.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, What's more pathetic? Someone that didn't really try that hard in college and has accomplished a truck load in the real world and has actually helped mankind, or someone that has spent all his money and time in college, done nothing with his life, and claims to be the end all on common sense because he got a "B+" in philosophy?

I didn't realize you got a B+ in philosophy. And I think I've actually accomplished something more along the lines of a boat load, not a truck load but I guess it depends on the size of the truck.

I'm sorry to hear you've done nothing with your life though. I guess your love/hate relationship with the political forum has something to do with that? And a B+ in Philosophy isn't so bad - don't beat yourself up over it.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, you going to complain to Kori that I'm being mean to you like you have in the past?

I guess you can continue to make things up, but I'd love Kori to come in here and post how many times I've complained to her about ANYTHING on these forums.

Seriously, ask Kori about that. I'm actually starting to doubt that you actually managed a B+ in anything in college considering how much incorrect info you always spew.


You honestly think I would ever complain about things you would say on these forums? LOOOOOOOOOOOL man, you're so never going to get under my skin John Smith but I think its funny you give yourself that much credit. Bravo bud. Bravo.

[johnsmith]

I didn't realize you got a B+ in philosophy. And I think I've actually accomplished something more along the lines of a boat load, not a truck load but I guess it depends on the size of the truck.

I'm sorry to hear you've done nothing with your life though. I guess your love/hate relationship with the political forum has something to do with that? And a B+ in Philosophy isn't so bad - don't beat yourself up over it.

So you have nothing then huh?


Shocking.

[ChumpDumper]

My su ion is you dont know what "disingenuous" means.

My motives were perfectly clear.

So then you just didn't know what you were talking about. I'll believe either one.

But its sooooo like you to harp on grammar or technicalities in someone's post rather than just answering the question.

I'm su ious by nature and didn't believe you in particular. I was right.

I'll give you another chance. Same question:

Has anyone, besides me, asked why we passed a 700 billion dollar stimulus that doesnt even spend much money until the year the white house expects the GDP to grow by 3.2%? <--- correct number

No excuses, now, Chumpdumper. Just answer the question.

Has anyone besides you asked that question?

Few people have probably asked that particular question, because the premise upon which it is based is shaky at best.

There's your answer.

[johnsmith]

how much incorrect info you always spew.

Go ahead and show me how much I always spew.

Go back and find examples of me posting incorrect info.

You have nothing................which is similar to what you have accomplished in life.


I would imagine it would suck when someone calls you out for having done nothing in 30 years, but at least come back with a defense that doesn't involve ty jokes.

[MannyIsGod]

So you have nothing then huh?


Shocking.

What exactly did you want me to have? You made a lame attempt to compare yourself to who you think I am. I guess it was an attempt to validate yourself, but I'm not sure to who?

Let me ask you John, do you put that on your resume? "I didn't try hard in college but I've done a TRUCKLOAD!!!!!"

Makes for a solid opener, IMO.

[MannyIsGod]

What incorrect info? Well you somehow think I've spent my entire life in school. You think I've accomplished nothing. You think I got a B+ in Philosophy (i've never taken it, but had I I would have gotten an A+, just FYI). You somehow think I've ever cried to Kori on account of you (LOL @ that, but LOL @ me crying to Kori about anything actually).

[johnsmith]

What exactly did you want me to have? You made a lame attempt to compare yourself to who you think I am. I guess it was an attempt to validate yourself, but I'm not sure to who?

Let me ask you John, do you put that on your resume? "I didn't try hard in college but I've done a TRUCKLOAD!!!!!"

Makes for a solid opener, IMO.

Here's the thing Manny, I don't need to put anything on my resume BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE A JOB.

I'm the same age as you, I can honestly say I have made the world a better place through my work, I own my own property. YOU HAVE NOTHING. YOU'VE DONE NOTHING, and yet you seem to think you are "smarter" or "better" then anyone on this site and you only come off as a .


I don't know if I'm alone in thinking all of this, but I know for a FACT you've done nothing with your life. But keep on posting dude, you are winning hearts and minds.

[Gino]

So then you just didn't know what you were talking about. I'll believe either one.

I'm su ious by nature and didn't believe you in particular. I was right.

I'll give you another chance. Same question:

Has anyone besides you asked that question?

Few people have probably asked that particular question, because the premise upon which it is based is shaky at best.

There's your answer.

How is it shaky? BOTH numbers come from Obama's white house.

Are you saying that the white house is shaky?

I would agree with that!!

I feel for you. I really do. Im sure its tough to have to defend this guy. He contradicts himself. He's out there shouting this is the greatest economic crisis since the great depression and Geitner has hardest job of any Treasury secretary since Hamilton, yet the economy is going to be quite rosey NEXT YEAR (and every year after for the next ten).

Obama is becoming the Kobe Bryant of politics. That is, he's a total PHONY. A bad actor who you can picture practicing his speeches and poses in the mirror.

[johnsmith]

What incorrect info?

Good job, that was indeed what I asked.

Well you somehow think I've spent my entire life in school.

My bad, I forgot about those two years you "explored" South Texas.

You think I've accomplished nothing.

Which you haven't.

think I got a B+ in Philosophy

Yeah, you take too literal. Tell you what, replace "Philosophy" with any undergrad course you got a B+ in.

(i've never taken it, but had I I would have gotten an A+, just FYI).

Yes, well anyone that has spent the time wondering what is going through a Professor's mind should have a good idea how to get an A+ in a course.

You somehow think I've ever cried to Kori on account of you (LOL @ that, but LOL @ me crying to Kori about anything actually).

I'll admit, this was pretty much an assumption based on the Whiney like personality you display on this site on a daily basis.

[ChumpDumper]

How is it shaky? BOTH numbers come from Obama's white house.

Are you saying that the white house is shaky?

No, your interpretation is shaky. You have very little understanding in this matter. Whether it is willful isn't clear, but the reason no one is asking your question is because your question sucks.

I feel for you. I really do.

You probably base that upon false premises too, so that doesn't mean much to me.

[MannyIsGod]

Here's the thing Manny, I don't need to put anything on my resume BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE A JOB.

I'm the same age as you, I can honestly say I have made the world a better place through my work, I own my own property. YOU HAVE NOTHING. YOU'VE DONE NOTHING, and yet you seem to think you are "smarter" or "better" then anyone on this site and you only come off as a .


I don't know if I'm alone in thinking all of this, but I know for a FACT you've done nothing with your life. But keep on posting dude, you are winning hearts and minds.

As a fact huh? Same as the fact of how I go crying to Kori? LOL @ you own your own property. Seriously John, who are you trying to prove that you've done more. To me or to yourself? If its to me, why do you care what I think of you? You sound extremely sure and proud of yourself John. Thats probably why you have to keep reassuring yourself. Is this also why I'm supposed to care what you think of me? Oh wait, this is obviously why I go crying to Kori. Because I care what you say.

Props on being accomplished at life. Did they give you a certificate? I guess being so accomplished in life - with property ownership and all ( man - props!) - is why you have time to post in forums you hate so much.

[johnsmith]

I'm going to go to be now Manny. We grown ups have to wake up before 10 AM because we have to do something known as WORK.


You enjoy Macro Economic Theory class and I hope you solve all the worlds problems while you're there.............Wait, nevermind, you may solve the problem, but God knows that the world won't care because you're just another student.


By the way...........that Graduate degree I have..............I have no idea where it is, I think it's tucked away in the attic...........just collecting dust.

[johnsmith]

Props on being accomplished at life. Did they give you a certificate? I guess being so accomplished in life - with property ownership and all ( man - props!) - is why you have time to post in forums you hate so much.

Isn't one of your goals to buy a house soon?


I'll sell you one of mine.................. .

[MannyIsGod]

Before you go to bed, John. Make sure to say your prayers and ask god for a bit more self esteem. You can own property AND believe in yourself bud. True story.

[MannyIsGod]

Isn't one of your goals to buy a house soon?


I'll sell you one of mine.................. .

Man, you should stick to the monkey jokes. At least those aren't made up. And weren't you going to bed? It must suck when you're not self employed and you have to work someone else's hours. But then again, you think having to go to a job is a good thing and a sign that you're accomplished. Right?

[jack sommerset]

ChumpDumper said "I'm su ious by nature " Right buddy. You are a hardcore Democrat. You are su ious only what is not Democrat.

[Yonivore]

Okay, I'm' being serious here. Would one of the Obama supporters in here please square this sentence, from President Obama's opening statement with the graph I posted in the first post of this thread.

Statement:

"At the end of the day, the best way to bring our deficit down in the long run is not with a budget that continues the very same policies that have led us to a narrow prosperity and massive debt. It's with a budget that leads to broad economic growth by moving from an era of borrow and spend to one where we save and invest."

graph:

[/QUOTE]

Please, tell me how that is not a bald-faced lie. I'm not picking a fight; I would seriously like for someone to defend this...

I'm starting to get the impression he neither knows the consequences of his policy initiatives nor what is going to pop up on the teleprompter when he steps to the podium.

[Gino]

No, your interpretation is shaky. You have very little understanding in this matter. Whether it is willful isn't clear, but the reason no one is asking your question is because your question sucks.

You probably base that upon false premises too, so that doesn't mean much to me.

Yes, my "interpretation" that the words of that article say that only 65% of the stimulus money will be spent by September of 2010 is "shaky".

Equally "shaky" is my "interpretation" that the white house is claiming the GDP will grow by 3.2% in 2010.

Bottom line: you dont have a ing clue. If it was obvious or there was any logical explanation, you would have stated it by now. But you dont because the idea to spend economic stimulus money during a time of healthy economic growth when you have a deficit of 6% of your GDP is asinine.

He can either tell us that this is worst economic crisis since the great depression or he can tell us that we are going to have a rosy economic recovery. He can't tell us both. If the economy is at full throttle next year, then all this talk of possible economic armageddon is a little over the top, yes?

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper said "I'm su ious by nature " Right buddy. You are a hardcore Democrat. You are suspious only what is not Democrat.

Nah, I don't take any politician at his word -- just like I don't from posters here. You proved your ignorance about the bonuses pretty thoroughly. All it took was a few posts.

[Gino]

Okay, I'm' being serious here. Would one of the Obama supporters in here please square this sentence, from President Obama's opening statement with the graph I posted in the first post of this thread.

Statement:



graph:

Please, tell me how that is not a bald-faced lie. I'm not picking a fight; I would seriously like for someone to defend this...

I'm starting to get the impression he neither knows the consequences of his policy initiatives nor what is going to pop up on the teleprompter when he steps to the podium.

Yeah, its mind boggling. You have a president who says one thing but does the exact opposite.

Thanks for the graph, btw.

[jack sommerset]

Nah, I don't take any politician at his word -- just like I don't from posters here. You proved your ignorance about the bonuses pretty thoroughly. All it took was a few posts.

hahahahhahaha. So u think AIG deserved those bonuses. Thats grand!

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, my "interpretation" that the words of that article say that only 65% of the stimulus money will be spent by September of 2010 is "shaky".

Equally "shaky" is my "interpretation" that the white house is claiming the GDP will grow by 3.2% in 2010.

Bottom line: you dont have a ing clue. If it was obvious or there was any logical explanation, you would have stated it by now. But you dont because the idea to spend economic stimulus money during a time of healthy economic growth when you have a deficit of 6% of your GDP is asinine.

You don't even realize what question you asked.

I answered it. 65% of the money will have been spent. That is not an insignificant amount of money as you are now trying to pretend.

Bottom line: your question sucks -- that's why no one is asking it.