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    I watch the Olympics to watch players play for their Country. Granted some NBA players don't have the pride that David Robinson has.


    Good use college amateurs then.

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    What´s done is done. Suck it up and look ahead.

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    I'm in favor of amateurs playing...something weird about mixing PROS with it..

    I ultimately don't give a about the Olympics...and never bought into the whole "they represent us" B.S. yeah, yeah, our athletes kick ass, we don't need the Olympics to really prove that.
    in America it's seen as more of a hyped up television sports special in a Summer that normally would be filled with t.v. reruns. the Olympics.

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    The compe ion isn't as intense and therefore more likely for significant injuries. Plus not participating in the Olympics allows more time for the player to rest.

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    NBA players should not be allowed to play Golf, or bowl or go fishing, or even go on an outdoor picnic for they could easily mess up a shoulder or God forbid they get an infection while baiting a hook. It must be only official NBA business or nothing!!

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    Manu knew that he could lose millions upon millions of dollars by playing. In fact, the Spurs told him they'd give him a $20M+ extension if he just didn't play for Argentina.
    are you serious ? i missed it if that's the case.

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    I think that's BS from Harvey. He wrote that piece way way way after the fact, trying to justify (or discredit) something.

    Manu's surgery wasn't imminent when the Spurs season ended. They would have just let him lay around healing on his own all summer. That surgery wouldn't have happened until he had an injury like he did in the Olympics--and that probably wouldn't have been until the season started if he didn't go to Beijing.
    Disagree.

    At no point was there an MRI that showed the injury healing. The only thing the MRIs were showing was that Manu couldn't further hurt the injury ... since the source of pain was an impingement and not something structurally wrong. They were going to have to go in and fix that impingement before the start of the season.

    The Spurs knew the possible result of Manu playing (basically what we see now). That's why they offered to extend him if they didn't play and why Pop used the media to try to pressure Manu into not playing.

    But of course unless Pop is kidnapped and water tortured, we'll probably never get the truth. The "it's great he got hurt at the Olympics!" line was debunked by Harvey ... but then he mysteriously wrote about three apology columns. So it's safe to assume that line is the way the Spurs want the history books to remember the situation.

    Perhaps it's true. Just like whether or not this latest injury is related to the first injury ............. we'll never know.


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    Monta Ellis comes to mind. happens.

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    Yet another reason why international basketball sucks . . .

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    That's always a question I always wonder when people start talking about the Olympics. In the offseason, a huge group on NBA guys play in camps put on by Grgurich and the like. Or play in organized games at UCLA every single day of the summer. Do people who think that they shouldn't play in the Olympics, think they shouldn't play in those games either?
    I think that organized, intense international compe ion is different. Pick-up games, camps, etc. expose guys to some risk, but not as much as actual games.

    International compe ion should be limited to amateurs. Of course if they do that, no one will watch because the best players aren't there.

    So if we have to have pro players in these compe ions, I think they have to be more judicious about deciding to play. Guys over 30, guys with nagging injuries, and guys who played long into the postseason should all think hard before deciding to play, especially if its going to be serious, intense compe ion.

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    And it's not just that an injury has to occur at the Olympics. The Olympics interfere with a player's ability to rest at some point during the year. For the Spurs this is even more important given that they have had season after season with 100 or so total games.

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    Disagree.

    At no point was there an MRI that showed the injury healing. The only thing the MRIs were showing was that Manu couldn't further hurt the injury ... since the source of pain was an impingement and not something structurally wrong. They were going to have to go in and fix that impingement before the start of the season.

    The Spurs knew the possible result of Manu playing (basically what we see now). That's why they offered to extend him if they didn't play and why Pop used the media to try to pressure Manu into not playing.

    But of course unless Pop is kidnapped and water tortured, we'll probably never get the truth. The "it's great he got hurt at the Olympics!" line was debunked by Harvey ... but then he mysteriously wrote about three apology columns. So it's safe to assume that line is the way the Spurs want the history books to remember the situation.

    Perhaps it's true. Just like whether or not this latest injury is related to the first injury ............. we'll never know.

    To be honest with you, Harvey is the same guy that wrote a lot of junk about everything that went on with Scola, so I'll take whatever he writes with a grain of salt. Furthermore, I can't think of a single NBA player that defied Popovich and got away with it. That's just the way Pop is.
    While I'm sure Pop would have been happier with Manu not playing in the Olympics, I think he probably understands just as much as you do that Manu needed to be there to defend his gold medal, being the compe ive beast he is. And if the doctors would have not cleared him, he wouldn't have let Manu go.

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    Yet another reason why international basketball sucks . . .
    Never go to bed angry, or with the tv on international basketball.

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    Manu did. Pop would fellate TD if asked.

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    Disagree.

    At no point was there an MRI that showed the injury healing. The only thing the MRIs were showing was that Manu couldn't further hurt the injury ... since the source of pain was an impingement and not something structurally wrong. They were going to have to go in and fix that impingement before the start of the season.

    The Spurs knew the possible result of Manu playing (basically what we see now). That's why they offered to extend him if they didn't play and why Pop used the media to try to pressure Manu into not playing.

    But of course unless Pop is kidnapped and water tortured, we'll probably never get the truth. The "it's great he got hurt at the Olympics!" line was debunked by Harvey ... but then he mysteriously wrote about three apology columns. So it's safe to assume that line is the way the Spurs want the history books to remember the situation.

    Perhaps it's true. Just like whether or not this latest injury is related to the first injury ............. we'll never know.

    I can't believe that you are buying into Harvey's B.S. article written six months after the fact. The guy has been copying your posts for years, and now you think he's a legit reporter?

    They never said when the season ended that Manu would need surgery before this season started. It was always understood that he would eventually re-aggravate it and then need surgery. If Manu wouldn't have gone to Beijing, he would have just laying down resting, putting off the inevitable.

    Manu's 08-09 season was screwed either way, perhaps to varying degrees.

    Anyway, it's time for everyone to wipe away their tears. We have to roll with what we got.

    Playoffs are almost here. Man your battle stations.


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    And it's not just that an injury has to occur at the Olympics. The Olympics interfere with a player's ability to rest at some point during the year. For the Spurs this is even more important given that they have had season after season with 100 or so total games.
    You are acting like guys are forced to play in the Olympics (*cough China*). You don't have to change the rule, the players have a choice. Since when can you decide what is better for a player, when the player has their own choice?

    What would be wrong is to take that choice away.

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    Nice. NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER has his own emoticon.

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    What an awful thread.

    Playing for the national team is important, not only for player pride, but for increasing the popularity of basketball worldwide.
    Holy crap, Am I close to agree with a Lakers' fan???

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    Nice. NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER has his own emoticon.
    We need that guy to start a thread for this game today...
    I'm already browsing for a pic...

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    So, is it okay for American players to play for their country?
    I am not saying they shouldn't be allowed to play for their countries. I was just wondering if teams/front offices could put that into a player's contract. I doubt it could be done. I was just wondering though. I had no problem with Manu playing for Argentina.

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    Tony is playing this summer, I think.
    Good for him. I hope he does.

    I am all for NBA players participating in the Olympics should they choose.

    However, to protect the NBA teams, I would support a clause in the player's contract where teams would be able to retain the athlete's salary for whatever period of NBA play the player missed due to an injury received at the Olympics.



    Or something like that.

    What I am trying to say is that while I believe athletes ought to be allowed to represent their country, I think that freedom ought to come with financial responsibility at the very least.

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    YOU F'IN COMMIE. OFF TO GUANTANAMO YOU GO!




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    However, to protect the NBA teams, I would support a clause in the player's contract where teams would be able to retain the athlete's salary for whatever period of NBA play the player missed due to an injury received at the Olympics.
    To some varying degree they already do. NBA players must get insurance in order to play in these compe ions. I'm not privy exactly to what kind of insurance that needs to be, specifically, but I do recall the CABB had to go knock on a few sponsor doors in order to get enough money to pay for Ginobili's insurance.

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    I agree

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