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Actually one of adidas more intelligent posts of late.
may be better ^^ well sounds funny
lets try
Wasn't Dwyane Wade on the Olympic team? I don't see him wearing down and suffering overuse injuries.
A) Wade is only in his second year. He's all of what...22? Resilience often comes with youth.
B) He was a spot player, at best, in Athens as Brown and Pop seemed reluctant to play any of the rooks who weren't named Lebron James.
C) There is an exception to every rule.
I have to agree with whoever it was that pointed out that Duncan would have rolled his ankle when he landed wrong regardless of how much rest he got during the summer. The great ballplayers really don't take summers off anyway. GMAFB. The Adidas theory has more credibility than blaming it all on the Olympics.
Playing in International ball will really wear a player down, especially if he is on a team that goes deep into the playoffs year in and year out. I feel this will cause injuries like we saw with Tims knee last year against Dallas. However yesterday was just bad luck, he could have just woken up from a 1 year nap and his ankle would have gotten sprained.
This is the third time that he's rolled the same ankle. Don't you think it's partially due to the rigors of the schedule?I have to agree with whoever it was that pointed out that Duncan would have rolled his ankle when he landed wrong regardless of how much rest he got during the summer.
I'm not too sure, Kori. It could be that due to rolling the ankle the first time early in the season, makes it more suseptacle (spelling?) to rolling it the second and third time. Without being given enough proper time to let the ankle fully heal.
I think the playing too many games during the season plus summer Olympics arguments comes into play for wear and tear type of injuries, like having a knee go out, or inflamation of the back, for examples.
It was Timmy's decision to play the olympics.
But we have too little rest, no taping and maybe even freaking bad luck.
don't blame the Olympics (it's rediciolous) ask Iverson.
Maybe NBA shoud stop play the playoff or reduce the regular season to 50 games in the same streach of time?????????????????????????
Olympics have nothing to do with his ankle
I would agree that Tim's knee quitting on him @DAL last season, tendonitis, was an over-use/fatigue injury.
I won't accept that Tim's ankle would have resisted yesterday's rollover if he had spent the summer on a Virgin Island beach, instead of in Athens.
How "tough" were Olympics games? How many minutes did Pop let him play? How many Olympics games and practices were there?
Would not have Tim, coming in from the beach, still spent some hours/day all summer "over-using" his legs and ankles in practice?
regular season length = 82games
+
playoff games
=
exhausted players
damn don't you realize that's a LOT?
is it because i leave in europe or something?
lets go back to soccer for a minute for a comparison
if you are one of the best french soccer player and if you win all the games in a season its like... 38regular season games + 15european cup + 12national cup + national events(lets say 15ish when its a WC year) = 80games
so way less than NBA
and dont you think traveling all around such a big country doesn't make resting easier...
if you want to blame something for players regular injuries just blame money...
more games = more money
take your regular season down to 50ish games and you'll see far less injuries...
how can you blame a player for participating to an event such as olympics...Olympic games is THE compe ion an athlete want to be part of... *shruggs*
80games
football games are 90 minutes vs NBA 48 minutes, what's the avg MPG for a star football?
But in soccer the game is 90min long(a lot of players play whole game), and a lot of training. And a few soccer players die in last 2 years.
do u guys played soccer and bball?
you play for 90min long but the type of effort is totally different...
you're not involved 100% of the time in a soccer game... and most of the soccer coaches make their star rest during less important matches when the schedule is overloaded to avoid injuries...
and 80 well NEVER happen because you never win all your matches so i think the max you can play is 80 but in reality i think its around 55games / year
I play soccer a lot of time, and you must still runing a lot even if you dont have a ball. And you cant compare Basketball with Footbal. Totaly diferent game.
well i played both too and to be honest i was most of the time more tired after playing 30minutes in a bball game than after 90 in a soccer game...
bball is very intense compare to soccer, smaller court but way faster and less player involved...
Tim had ankle problems w/ Nike too. You're argument is flawed. He just needs to tape his ankles up more.
If this is true, its a sad comment indeed. Prefering your local team over your National Team . . .
Soccer involves the best trained athletes in team sports in the world.
Most of the players run the whole game, 90 minutes, with 2 halfs.
For soccer, you need to have some crazy endurance. I used to play soccer and it was a lot of running, but I am also very tired in short time of play in basketball because it is a different type of running.
In basketball, the main type of running you do are sprints, especially if you're a guard. Running bacak to get on defense, and sprinting down the court on a fast break over and over again is tiring.
In soccer, you sprint when the ball is near you mainly, but if you're away from the ball you normally jog to another position.
Still, at the professional level, soccer players have more endurance than basketball players.
smeagol, I think the Olympics started losing their luster in the US once:
a) the novelty of NBA players particpating wore off
b) more international players played in the NBA (so we didn't need the Olympics to see them)
c) it became apparent that the US was going to be severly handicapped because they didn't have a full-time national team/coach.
Of course, that doesn't explain all the assholes in the US who last year were saying they wanted the US team to lose. I won't go into why people all of a sudden started saying that for the first time.
It's true for me. American basketball players have consistently mailed in thier games for the Olympics. NO ONE is playing for the honor and pride of thier country nor do they care to, just look and see how some of these idiots act during the playing of the national anthem. No it's all about the endorsment deals and the marketability of thier Olympic jerseys. Timmy has been playing basically for three years straight and his body is telling him it's time to give it a break. The NBA Championship Trophy is what's it all about now, and I dare you to tell me it isn't. Weather your European, African, American or whatever the basketball players of the world know that if you make it in the NBA you have made it to highest plateau of the game, and to win at that level is to win against the greatest players ANYWHERE (including Argentina!)
I agree with you.
I think that the NBA players aren't really playing for honor and pride for the US because they are used to bringing home the gold every 4 years. They sort of assume that they will win the Olympics every time it occurs. If you look at the type of players on the US national team, you don't see many players that are the type that would die for their country. I mean, AI, Melo, Lebron...they are great players, but not the type that WANT to honor their country.
I think the US coaches, or who ever decides who they want to represent their country in the Olympics, should decide more carefully. They should pick players with more leadership.
Also, many great players refused to play when they were invited to play for their country...what kind of crap is that. Some make an excuse that they are afraid of terrorism.
If my country asked me to represent them in any way, doesn't have to be basketball, I would do it.
Tim needs wider shoes.
It's hard to draw a comparison between soccer and basketball. I've played both, including playing soccer both collegiately, and semi-pro. Soccer is more demanding on your legs in the long run. And the *type* of fitness required for both varies as well.
There is a reason why you can't play soccer games professionally on back-to-back days, but you can for basketball games. In Europe, a team will play 2 games or so every calendar week, which can include travel for the domestic league, playing in domestic cups, and the Champions League and UEFA Cup.
The difference between what a soccer player in Europe goes through, and what a basketball player in the NBA goes through is like night and day. If you're a star player who plays for a big club, you could realistically be playing continually from mid July (preaseason) through May. Two months of off-season. If it's during a year when the World Cup, or European Championships happen in the summer, then a player might have a off-season of TWO WEEKS (because those compe ions run in June and July)
But let's get back to the topic of NBA players playing too much. The same arguments are brought about with soccer players as well. They club teams and their coaches are always complaining about the players playing way too many games internationally. It's the same principle that the NBA players go through if they choose to play in international compe ion. The only time for these international compe ions is in the professional *off-season*, which can cause a major drain on the players themselves.
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