Barry doesnt' deserve minutes. He just doesn't. He's had more than enough chances, enough is enough.
You look it up. You're on the same internet as me. I'm not the Barry apologist.
Barry was HORRIBLE today offensively and defensively. It's rare you see an NBA player play that bad of defense.
Can you admit that? Barry was horrible and plays afraid.
Right?
Answer me that.
Whottt -- Face the music, Barry is a wuss. Stop using the "he only got two shot attempts" bull excuse. If Beno Udrih, a rookie, can manage to find a way to get 13 shot attempts off in 20 minutes, then Mr. Veteran High Basketball IQ needs to reach in his shorts and find his balls and take some frickin' shots.
I already know the answer, I've known it all season long...you obviously don't.
Amazing that we hung with the Pistons while Barry was in the game for the entire game yet got run when he was off the court.Barry was HORRIBLE today offensively and defensively. It's rare you see an NBA player play that bad of defense.
Can you admit that?
How is that possible? And it's been that way all season long...
His shooting sucks...but I don't think he's afraid or the rest of his game sucks.Barry was horrible and plays afraid.
A breakdown of our W-L record and team stats bear out everything I have said...that's a big reason I have the opinion on him I do.
Barry hasn't been afraid to take a big shot yet this season....it's the rest of the time he doesn't shoot. The guy doesn't like taking bad shots. Those are not open shots that he passes up and if they are it's because someone is closer to the basket than he is and open.
You know, this made me wonder if Kerr wears all those rings when he takes a dump?
Can you imagine? Miss-aim on the reach around wipe and you're scratching your anus with a big-ass diamond. Ouch!
And how do you clean the turds from in between the diamonds on a NBA Championship ring anyway? That could prove difficult.
I'd suspect, that for precautionary reasons, the rings stay in their boxes when it's time to have a stinky.
8:40 Dion Glover enters the game for Brent Barry 87-92
end score = 101-110
but also be advised that Rasho came in for Nazr about a minute later and didn't return till 1:48. Taking Brent out didn't lose the game for us.
I know that I am exposing me but playing against Prince doesn't help. This guy is playing increadibly and is one of the best SF in the league today (the best in the east I think).
Barry wasn't playing that bad the last games, seeing that his shot wasn't good, he is trying to create for his teammates and he is good at that. Today against Pistons defense he struggled but was he supposed to shoot more when Beno was hot until late in the game?
You know, I'm tired of these complicated reasons of why Barry is playing horrible.
Because when it comes down to it, he can't hit wide open shots. He just can't!
He gets at least one wide open look at a jumper, which should be no more difficult than a layup, and he can never hit it. He's shooting an incredibly low percentage as of late, and most of those shots he takes are wide open.
I'm tired of the excuses, Barry needs to be burried on the bench.
Then how come the only time he has ever hit one this season is against Phoenix? We're sixty-some games into the season.Barry hasn't been afraid to take a big shot yet this season...
He's the Anti-Clutch.
I think Barry isn't hitting his wide open threes because of the fact that he was brought to San Antonio for shooting threes.
He knows his role on the team, and Pop knew he was bringing a 3 point shooter.
So, picture yourself wide open, completely wide open. Barry has extra pressure on him because he is doing exactly what we beg him to do, and he probably feels that if he misses, then everyone will be pissed.
Barry needs to start helping by doing things on the court other than shooting 3's so he can sort of forget that he is a 3 point shooter, then the 3's will come more naturally.
I know it's not a good excuse, Barry should be shooting a higher %, but it's something to think about.
Yeah, well he's had a chance to do that. This isn't time to learn anything, this is time to go with the players who are playing the best and develop a solid roation going into the playoffs.
Barry is factoring himself out of that rotation. He does very little better than Devein Brown, and none of it makes him worth of minutes at the expense of Brown.
Prince tore up Glover and Manu too.....don't let them fool you.
I am going to say this one final time...
If you want Barry to approximate the player he was in Seattle...Guess what? He was big part of their offense in Seattle...they ran plays that played to his strengths...
Guess what? Standing up there and jacking 3 pointers and doing little else is not his strength...I wish it was because all our lives would be much more fufilled now if it was his strength...
But it isn't...so we have two choices, run some plays for him or continue to let him suck for 5 million a season...and Pop's strength is not exactly upping the trade value of players he is unhappy with...
I don't care...I just want the team to win a freaking le...I am sorry guys don't see it but Devin and Beno haven't made a big shot in a meaningful game all season...and all those big games Devin had last season were when there was no expectation from him...and we also lost just about all of them.
This team needs Barry, I want to win a le...and sitting here saying he sucks and being stubborn about his role isn't going to win a le.
Brent Barry is not Hedo...Barry doesn't need to start, he doesn't want to start, he isn't worried about getting a big contract, he came here to podunk San Antonio to win a le...His heart is in the right place and his motivations are good enough for me to stick it out with him until he actually does choke...
In my definition of choke.
Barry doesn't do better than Brown at all. Brown is actually a valuable part of the team, I don't see why people bash on him, he's a solid bench player that brings energy.
He helped keep the Spurs in it today.
If Barry wants to consult someone on what his role on this team will be, he needs to pick up a phone and call Steve Kerr. There is no reason to give him playing time right now, and if he's as much as a professional as people give him credit for being then he will remain ready for action.
I said this earlier, Barry shouldn't just be used for jacking threes.
BTW, Devin Brown is more valuable to the Spurs right now. Doesn't matter who hits the big shot in a meaningful game all season, what matters is who is contributing.
When Devin is on the court, he is making jumpers, driving to the whole and either making a lay-up or getting sent to the stripe for 2 shots. Either way, he's bringing energy that helps the Spurs.
In 18 minutes, Barry didn't do anymore more than 2 rebounds and 3 assists. How is he helping?
Um, because he hasn't been on the court to do that except in about 3 games? Two of which we won? Don't forget the clutch Free Throws he shot in the last Detroit game when everyone was choking at the FT line.
He's always yanked in crunch time so how can you say he hasn't done it?
Tell me...how many big late shots in close games have Devin and Beno hit?
They are the guys that put up numbers when there is no pressure and tighten up and start missing them when it gets tight...not Barry. Barry is an equal opportunity sucker.
He seemed clutch enough when he hit a game winning 3 pointer against us a few years ago...he seemed good enough in the 02 playoffs when his team beat us every time Duncan was out of the game and pushed us to 5 games.He's the Anti-Clutch.
So you guys say he's the anti clutch, I don't think he is...And I remember doubting Hedo last season when he was shooting good and having everyone tell me it was going to be fine...
There's one major difference...Kerr had 3 rings to fend off Pop's confidence destroying BS....Kerr knew he was good enough to hit a game winning shot in the finals.
Pop made it harder on Kerr to do what he did in the 03 playoffs, not easier...and if it hadn't been for Duncan Kerr probably would not have got off the bench in those playoffs.
Whottt, you are really missing something in regards to Barry. Nobody wants him to just jack up three's. But hitting some outside shots is a big part of why he's here. He knows that -- he acknowledge it in the E-N article last night. He is befuddled why he can't knock down an open shot. And Pop has repeatedly said that it's primarily because he's putting too much pressure on himself ... well if he can't handle the pressure in game 2 of the season, game 32, game 52 ... you get the picture. How is he going to handle playoff pressure.
Aside from outside shooting, when Manu was out, Barry managed to dish and rebound (he had season highs in each) even when his shot wasn't falling. So now that he's back on the bench two days later, where did that go? What did he bring to the table today? He didn't hit the boards .... he didn't pass that well.
And he's a horrible defender. I'm not talking about in today's game, but in general. And not because he doesn't have some skills. He has the speed to stay in front of someone; he has the athleticism to jump and even block some shots some times. But many, many times, he gives up on D -- and that pisses me off. And as a Spurs fan, it should piss you off too. Steve Kerr sucked as a defender... but he didn't give up like Barry does a lot of the time.
Like you, every Spurs fan wants Barry to succeed. And the Spurs have given him every opportunity to do so. They've had games where they run plays for him, they've had games where they have begged him to shoot. But it gets tiresome to watch him NOT perform. I thought the Barry signing was good. timvp thought it was great. But everyone was skeptical if he would be able to step up and find a role on a good team. Devin Brown is finding ways to contribute. Beno is finding ways to contribute. Barry needs to do whatever he can to do the same. It's not on Pop. It's not about running plays for him. It's about reaching inside yourself and finding ways to be a winner. He hasn't found that yet.
Pop just said in an interview he's telling Barry to just shoot, just be aggressive, not worry about the consequences. Yeah, I see your point. Pop's really undermining Barry's confidence.
Can we do a S&T Barry for Daniels to Seattle after he pulls a Hedo on us in the playoffs. I take it back, that's an insult to Hedo. Hedo at least D'd up.
I'm still hoping that doesn't happen. I really want to have faith in Barry. But there are too many parallels -- each of them having January as their biggest month of the season.after he pulls a Hedo on us in the playoffs
This is wrong...the last time Barry was in the game the score was 84 - 87.
Be advised...we lost ground from about the two minute mark of this game on, I generally define that as crunchtime..Barry wasn't the guy choking...obviously the guys on the court didn't get it done.but also be advised that Rasho came in for Nazr about a minute later and didn't return till 1:48. Taking Brent out didn't lose the game for us.
Spurs scored 101 points. How many of those was Barry responsible for?
What makes you guys think Barry is going to pull a Hedo in the playoffs, he isn't pulling one in the regular season
They are different.
Hedo took the $$$$ to go play for the worst team in the NBA....I think his motivations are just a tad different than Brent Barry's...
And PicNRoll...I just hope Devin Brown isn't Antonio Daniels Part 2...
Antonio put up monster numbers when the Lakers were kicking our butts in the 01 WCF and no one was paying attention to him, something like 20 points a game...the next year when we needed him in a much more compe ive series he choked...
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