Why do people point to Lakers 2-0 record vs Cavs this year

[Thunder Dan]

Same LeBron, different personell. Last year Kwame Brown was the starting Center in the first game.

No Ariza, no Pau. That's two starters right there.

Against Ariza this year, LeBron averaged like 30% shooting.

and against Pierce last year he shot like 20% before hitting 35 a couple times in that series.

Kobe was 4-24 or some like that against the Jazz the other night


Liek I said, you can't condition everything from 2 games as standard while assuming the Lakers variables will adjust

[Ghazi]

according to Allanon the Bobcats would have a better shot of beating the Lakers in a best of 7 than the Cavs.

75 win ecstasy!!

[redzero]

I find it amusing that Thunder Dan thinks the Cavs actually have any entertainment value. If LeBron wasn't on that team, nobody would give a about the Cavs. Even with LeBron on the team, they are still boring to watch.

Lakers in five.

[Gouken]

Lakers were 0-2 against the Celtics last year. Look how that turned out.

[Thunder Dan]

I find it amusing that Thunder Dan thinks the Cavs actually have any entertainment value. If LeBron wasn't on that team, nobody would give a about the Cavs. Even with LeBron on the team, they are still boring to watch.

Lakers in five.

who is interesting on the Lakers other than Kobe? How many Grizzlies games did ABC air to showcase Gasol? I remember the Magic being on TV every night so people could get their fill of Trevar Ariza. There is no difference between the Lakers being good and on TV b/c of Kobe and the Cavs being good and on TV because of Lebron

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

the Cavs were up 10 at the half in Cleveland. It wasn't a blowout, it was Lamar Odom playing out of his shoes because he had a rookie on him

You mean that amazing rookie that should have been a lottery pick and that "your insider" was sure the Suns would trade Amare for?

[Allanon]

and against Pierce last year he shot like 20% before hitting 35 a couple times in that series.

Kobe was 4-24 or some like that against the Jazz the other night

Flukes do happen...once in awhile. LeBron followed up his 25% performance with a 35% one.

Liek I said, you can't condition everything from 2 games as standard while assuming the Lakers variables will adjust

The same problems exist.

Lakers have 2 agile seven footers, who's gonna stopthem?
Lakers have 6'10 Lamar Odom, who's gonna stop him?
Lakers have 6'6 Kobe Bryant. Cavs guards are Mo 6'1, West 6'3...who's gonna stop Kobe?
Lakers have 6'8 Ariza to slow down King James and it's worked out great.

[DrHouse]

I would have thought it impossible and futile to defend an 0-2 record but clearly I was wrong.

The bottom line is this, the Lakers won both games against the Cavs in a similar manner. They contained Lebron James and forced him to the perimeter, and pounded the ball inside mercilessly to expose CLE's weak frontcourt.

You can talk about Z being out or Joe Smith not being there but I can also point out that Bynum didn't play, Kobe freaking dislocated his finger and couldn't even shoot, and that Kobe had the flu so bad he had to get an IV right after the game was done. At the end of the day all that kind of talk amounts to the same , EXCUSES. It's what losers spend their time coming up with rather than pointing to the obvious conclusion.

CLE for all their strengths is still a one dimensional team. LBJ + 4 shooters. They have no other offense to rely on when their jumpshots aren't falling and LBJ is kept out of the paint. These kind of teams typically don't win championships. The only reason the Cavs may make it to the Finals is because the good EC teams are completely decimated right now.

I would say CLE has peaked as a team. They aren't getting any better than they are playing right now for this season. LAL is like a freight train that is just starting to pick up steam....when all the pieces come together and Bynum regains his form I don't think a team the Lakers spanked 2-0 is going to give them a whole lot of trouble.

[Allanon]

according to Allanon the Bobcats would have a better shot of beating the Lakers in a best of 7 than the Cavs.

75 win ecstasy!!

Absolutely. The Bobcats have owned the Lakers for years now...including this year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lakers have 2 agile seven footers, who's gonna stopthem?

JJ Hickson

Lakers have 6'10 Lamar Odom, who's gonna stop him?

JJ Hickson

Lakers have 6'6 Kobe Bryant. Cavs guards are Mo 6'1, West 6'3...who's gonna stop Kobe?

JJ Hickson

Lakers have 6'8 Ariza to slow down King James and it's worked out great.

JJ Hickson > Ariza

[sook]

and against Pierce last year he shot like 20% before hitting 35 a couple times in that series.

Kobe was 4-24 or some like that against the Jazz the other night


Liek I said, you can't condition everything from 2 games as standard while assuming the Lakers variables will adjust

Celtics defensive players combined with Tom Thibedoux's interior defensive spacing schemes brought about some of the greatest defense i have ever seen. James Posey took them to that level its too bad he left. Their defense was THAT good. We all kind of knew Kobe was going to shoot that way. KG just completely dominated Gasol but look for all that to change this yr.

Cavs are a real good basketball team but its kind of just one of things we all know inside, they are no match for the lakers.

[Thunder Dan]

I really don't feel like arguing anymore. The Lakers will obviously win the Championship because David Stern will scan message boards everywhere for Lakers fans breaking down all the possibilities as to why the Cavs stand no chance and he will just cancel the Finals because he doesn't want anyone getting hurt. There is obviously no reasoning with Laker fans, they already have the trophy just as the Cavs had theirs against the Spurs in 2007

[sook]

JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson



JJ Hickson > Ariza

ooommffgg hahaha

[sook]

I would have thought it impossible and futile to defend an 0-2 record but clearly I was wrong.

The bottom line is this, the Lakers won both games against the Cavs in a similar manner. They contained Lebron James and forced him to the perimeter, and pounded the ball inside mercilessly to expose CLE's weak frontcourt.

You can talk about Z being out or Joe Smith not being there but I can also point out that Bynum didn't play, Kobe freaking dislocated his finger and couldn't even shoot, and that Kobe had the flu so bad he had to get an IV right after the game was done. At the end of the day all that kind of talk amounts to the same , EXCUSES. It's what losers spend their time coming up with rather than pointing to the obvious conclusion.

CLE for all their strengths is still a one dimensional team. LBJ + 4 shooters. They have no other offense to rely on when their jumpshots aren't falling and LBJ is kept out of the paint. These kind of teams typically don't win championships. The only reason the Cavs may make it to the Finals is because the good EC teams are completely decimated right now.

I would say CLE has peaked as a team. They aren't getting any better than they are playing right now for this season. LAL is like a freight train that is just starting to pick up steam....when all the pieces come together and Bynum regains his form I don't think a team the Lakers spanked 2-0 is going to give them a whole lot of trouble.

Just do what the Celtics did last year and all the good teams did this year to the cavs. Clog the paint. Its simple, we all know James isn't a reliable jump shooter (understatement), take away his drives to the basket which open things up for the perimeter guys and you take away the whole cav's offense.

[Allanon]

JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson



JJ Hickson > Ariza

That's probably the best post you've ever made.

[Muser]

JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson


JJ Hickson



JJ Hickson > Ariza

[Thunder Dan]

Let me ask this of Laker fans, can you break down a hypothetical series between the Bobcats and Lakers? Obviously the Bobcats are better than the Lakers, but how would they end up winning the series?

[Allanon]

I really don't feel like arguing anymore. The Lakers will obviously win the Championship because David Stern will scan message boards everywhere for Lakers fans breaking down all the possibilities as to why the Cavs stand no chance and he will just cancel the Finals because he doesn't want anyone getting hurt. There is obviously no reasoning with Laker fans, they already have the trophy just as the Cavs had theirs against the Spurs in 2007

I've tried reason.

But hey, for all it's worth, good luck in the next round. Hope you guys make it to the Finals for the showdown.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

ooommffgg hahaha

You'll regret laughing when JJ Hickson has a career as illustrious as Karl Malone's.

[Spur-Addict]

Same LeBron, different personell. Last year Kwame Brown was the starting Center in the first game.

No Ariza, no Pau. That's two starters right there.

Against Ariza this year, LeBron averaged like 30% shooting.

Just like not having Delonte and Z. So it only goes one way I see. Nothing really changes around here.

[Thunder Dan]

Just do what the Celtics did last year and all the good teams did this year to the cavs. Clog the paint. Its simple, we all know James isn't a reliable jump shooter (understatement), take away his drives to the basket which open things up for the perimeter guys and you take away the whole cav's offense.

the Cavs came within a rebound of beating the Celtics last year. You are saying that clogging the paint is such a sure thing, but they came within a late PJ Brown putback from winning that series. If that was such a flaw-proof plan the games would never of been close.

[Muser]

Let me ask this of Laker fans, can you break down a hypothetical series between the Bobcats and Lakers? Obviously the Bobcats are better than the Lakers, but how would they end up winning the series?

lolwut?

[Thunder Dan]

lolwut?

the Bobcats handled the Lakers twice this year fairly easily. The Lakers had no match for Gerrald Wallace. I'm just wondering how the Lakers would stay in a 7 game series with the Bobcats

[Allanon]

Let me ask this of Laker fans, can you break down a hypothetical series between the Bobcats and Lakers? Obviously the Bobcats are better than the Lakers, but how would they end up winning the series?

Bobcat Bigs are too quick for the Laker bigs.

Bobcats had Shannon Brown, who lit up the Lakers in one of the games. Luckily now he's a Laker.

Bobcats also have Raja Bell, probably one of the best Kobe defenders of all time.

Lakers vs Bobcats Finals would be very compe ive.

[sook]

the Cavs came within a rebound of beating the Celtics last year. You are saying that clogging the paint is such a sure thing, but they came within a late PJ Brown putback from winning that series. If that was such a flaw-proof plan the games would never of been close.

Hmm are you forgetting that lebron was tied for 4th all time worst shooting for a star player ever before game 7? His shooting was in the 20% range one of the games. Give credit to your role players stepping up when that happened...its just you can't always rely on them.