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    how about david lee? his looking at all offers?

    maybe we can do a sign and trade with the knicks and get them further under the cap....

    how about a hustle point/foward type of player...matt barnes.
    I really like David Lee - He's probably the guy who plays hardest for the knicks

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    I really like David Lee - He's probably the guy who plays hardest for the knicks
    Lee, Robinson, & Chandler aren't going anywhere IMO, even with the 2010 sweepstakes.

    Edit: Though I wish we could pry Lee away....just don't think it will even come close to happening. They have some other contracts that will give them cap space in a year.

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    Spurs targets need to be......Ariza, Artest, Gortat, Carney
    Trade targets....Outlaw, Rudy F, RJ and VC, Yi
    What about Wally Zerbiak? For the right price, he could be a decent Kerr/ Barry type of player. He should legally change his name to spell it like that to simplify things. Do you think Wally could be had for the LLE? Then perhaps Sheed for the MLE? Can we make that happen?

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    i'm a definite no on wally world... we need some athleticism and defense, not another stand still shooter. diversifying the roster is the big key this summer.

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    no to wally!!!! NO WAY

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    Spurs targets need to be......Ariza, Artest, Gortat, Carney
    Trade targets....Outlaw, Rudy F, RJ and VC, Yi

    I'm a big fan of all of those guys, except Yi. I think he's way too soft. The Spurs definitely need to re-visit the potential Camby and Vince Carter trades from earlier this year. We couldn't get both, but one or the other would help the Spurs tremendously. And I don't see Ariza every coming to the Spurs because he's a UCLA guy and the Lakers are probably going to win it all. I'm sure he's content with where he's at. All for throwing some money at Ron-Ron though.

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    I'm a big fan of all of those guys, except Yi. I think he's way too soft. The Spurs definitely need to re-visit the potential Camby and Vince Carter trades from earlier this year. We couldn't get both, but one or the other would help the Spurs tremendously. And I don't see Ariza every coming to the Spurs because he's a UCLA guy and the Lakers are probably going to win it all. I'm sure he's content with where he's at. All for throwing some money at Ron-Ron though.
    im down with trying to get camby or VC...especially since clippers are going to draft griffin

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    Spurs targets need to be......Ariza, Artest, Gortat, Carney
    Trade targets....Outlaw, Rudy F, RJ and VC, Yi
    Good list with a few changes imo.

    Trade targets (in random order): Outlaw, Rudy F., RJ, Tyrus Thomas, Gortat (RFA), MMiller, Nocioni, and Camby.

    I don't think the Lakers will let Ariza go especially since he is a RFA. And Artest probably wouldn't draw interest from the Spurs... because he would be too expensive and too volatile.

    The Chicago Bulls are reportedly heavily shopping Tyrus Thomas around the league, trying to see what kind of value they can get for him after the solid season he’s coming off of. It appears that they don’t see him fitting into their long-term plans as he’s too similar to Joakim Noah, and they aren’t interested in giving him a long-term deal that would put them over the luxury tax. It’s possible the Bulls look to package Thomas and Hinrich together and land a big time power forward.

    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

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    We need a small forward-Guard that can defend / a player who can play either forward position / a center who can block shots and rebound.

    1 - Dahntay Jones can defend positions 1-3 and he can drive and finish at the rim.
    He is only 28. He can be the new Bruce Bowen.

    2 - James Singleton can play the 3 and can play the 4 when pop wants to go small.
    He is 6-8 and athletic and a very good rebounder. He is only 27.

    3 - Chris Kaman can play the center position next to tim. He can rebound and
    block shots. He also is able to hit the open jumper and can play with his back to
    the basket. He is 7'0 tall and is only 27. The downside is that he can be injury
    prone at times and his contract is 3 years at around $9 million. We have to trade
    for him which isn't hard since the Clippers are gonna try to unload some money to
    have space for their No. 1 draft pick.

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    The Kt for Outlaw deal is good, we need that wing player who can defend and score. We still need a big man who can do it all basically (Shoot / Post Up / Rebound / Block Shots / Play solid D ). Having that will take pressure off Tim in all the above categories. Gooden can do some of those things, but the defense ( playing post up D and defending the rim-blocking shots )is still an issue. Which is the real Issue if we are to win another Championship.

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    3 - Chris Kaman can play the center position next to tim. He can rebound and
    block shots. He also is able to hit the open jumper and can play with his back to
    the basket. He is 7'0 tall and is only 27. The downside is that he can be injury
    prone at times and his contract is 3 years at around $9 million. We have to trade
    for him which isn't hard since the Clippers are gonna try to unload some money to
    have space for their No. 1 draft pick.
    please stop this, it gets boring.
    we know who Kaman is. to claim it isn't hard to get him is so naive that it hurts. he's better than about 20 of the starting Centers in the league, if the Clippers put him on the market, it won't be the Spurs to get him.

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    please stop this, it gets boring.
    we know who Kaman is. to claim it isn't hard to get him is so naive that it hurts. he's better than about 20 of the starting Centers in the league, if the Clippers put him on the market, it won't be the Spurs to get him.
    It just might be, if we give up bowen/oberto and throw in bonner who is in the last year of his contract then it could work. The clippers arent trying to get more talent, their trying to unload money, bonner at $3million for one year can't hurt them. And Bowen and oberto can be cut giving the clippers $3.8 million dollars.

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    It just might be, if we give up bowen/oberto and throw in bonner who is in the last year of his contract then it could work. The clippers arent trying to get more talent, their trying to unload money, bonner at $3million for one year can't hurt them. And Bowen and oberto can be cut giving the clippers $3.8 million dollars.
    If they just want to save money then why would they trade with the Spurs when there are a few other teams who can offer more in terms of immediate cap relief?

    They will want some talent for Kaman, it won't be a straight salary dump, I assure you. They might want to salary dump Z Bo, but not Kaman. Besides if we get Kaman we'd lose any financial flexibility until Duncan retires. We'd lose Manu, woluldn't be able to trade for anyone else who has some value. Duncan didn't take a paycut in order for the Spurs to get Kaman and lose Manu.

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    Why would we lose Manu? Spurs own his rights and can pay him the most. In fact, the only way to significantly upgrade and keep Manu is via trade.

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    I am thinking.. don't disturb the 2010-11 plan..and sign more veterans to fill in the immediate needs. (if of course you don't land a marquee player trading Bowen,Oberto,Bonner/Thomas in some combination).

    Two areas where we need upgrades are definitely SF and Center.

    Can we try Grant Hill for SF? He offers decent offense numbers and is an intelligent player who proved that he has gotten over his injury woes with 70 games and 82 games the past two seasons respectively. Will he sign on the Veteran's minimum? He played for that sum for the setting Suns, after all!

    For Center- Marcin Gortat is worth a try with some split of MLE and if nothing works out, why not Rasho Nesterovic?

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    Will the MLE get you Varejao?

    According to articles on Realgm and Hoopshype he will opt out of his contract.

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    Will the MLE get you Varejao?

    According to articles on Realgm and Hoopshype he will opt out of his contract.
    The last year of his contract is 6.2 million...which is almost a million more than the MLE. According to some sources he is looking for 9-10 million.

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    The last year of his contract is 6.2 million...which is almost a million more than the MLE. According to some sources he is looking for 9-10 million.
    but this year there are no teams able (or willing) to trow this kind if money at Varejao. he will once more settle for MLE, if he wants to leave the Cavs. or re sign with the Cavs. I can see them offer him 7-8 per. maybe slightly more, if Ben Wallace in fact retires and accepts a buy out. this would free some money for Varejao.

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    The last year of his contract is 6.2 million...which is almost a million more than the MLE. According to some sources he is looking for 9-10 million.
    Nope. Don't think so. I think Varejao opted out because he wants some security like a long contract in the MLE range. He is only 25 so signing him long term is a bargain as he will be consistent or even improve his game. I have him going back to Cleveland.

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    I was going to put this in the Childress thread but since it has to do with multiple free-agents, and whether Atlanta will be able to obtain them, I figured I'd just put it here:

    http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2009/06/1...id=blogs_hawks

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    Why would we lose Manu? Spurs own his rights and can pay him the most. In fact, the only way to significantly upgrade and keep Manu is via trade.
    I still think a good option for Manu is to try to get him to trade $ for years on his contract. 4 years $24 million, 5 years $30 million. I can't see anyone throwing $10 million per for him unless he tears it up next year. And we have the ability to limit his minutes and keep his stats down. $6 million per would be a great deal to keep Manu. $8 million per, may need to let him walk. $10 million per, can't see it unless just a short term deal, 1-2 years.

    $6 million per season for 4-5 years could be win-win for both sides. Spurs may get a good deal, but Manu gets to play out his career in S.A.

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    There were rumors that the Spurs inquired about Al Harrington last November (Ludden article, http://tinyurl.com/nkox9u). He's a free agent, been around 10 years (possible attraction to MLE), and plays the wing. Shouldn't he be part of the discussion?

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    There were rumors that the Spurs inquired about Al Harrington last November (Ludden article, http://tinyurl.com/nkox9u). He's a free agent, been around 10 years (possible attraction to MLE), and plays the wing. Shouldn't he be part of the discussion?
    Harrington will only become a FA if he opts out of the $10M he is guaranteed next year. Probably not going to happen.

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    Harrington will only become a FA if he opts out of the $10M he is guaranteed next year. Probably not going to happen.
    Great. Thanks for the info, I missed that detail.

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    matt barnes anyone?

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