International Prospect: James Gist

[tp2021]

Where's DarkWaters?

[lurker23]

if Gist was so good in the summer and looked at as a person the spurs need....why did we send him overseas and keep hairston and tolliver?

I think the only thing we can really ascertain from this is that the Spurs felt, for one reason or another, that Gist wouldn't be able to significantly contribute this year. Speculation takes us in a few different directions, either that he broadly needed to polish his game, or that they had specific things they wanted him to work on, such as his perimeter game to give him more potential as a 3/4.

As far as the Austin vs. overseas debate, there are a few factors that come into play, such as roster flexibility and salary cap space. There were a few times that the Spurs reached the 15 player limit this year, and even waived players that they were potentially high on, such as Tolliver and Hairston. If you throw James Gist into that mix, perhaps you risk having to give up rights to him to pick up someone like Drew Gooden.

Or, the simple explanation might have been that the front office told him, "We don't feel you'll be getting much playing time in San Antonio this year. Your choices are signing with us and playing in Austin, or playing overseas." As much as I love Austin, if I were in those shoes, I would take the extra cash and tour of Italy.

[Obstructed_View]

Pop had a Finleyesque man-love for Tolliver, which cost the team. Once Toll hit those threes in summer league, it was all over.

[lurker23]

Pop had a Finleyesque man-love for Tolliver, which cost the team. Once Toll hit those threes in summer league, it was all over.

I really don't think the Tolliver and Gist decisions were all that related. If they thought that there was any chance they wanted Gist on the roster in 2008-09, they would have brought him to training camp.

[montgod]

Anyone have any stats on how he did overseas?

[lurker23]

Anyone have any stats on how he did overseas?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Gist-597/

27.6 mpg, 12.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg.

Good 3 point percentage (46.4%), but based on his per game averages, it seems he's taking 2 or 3 a game and making one of those. (Also, international 3 point distance.)

[timvp]

if Gist was so good in the summer and looked at as a person the spurs need....why did we send him overseas and keep hairston and tolliver?

Prior to the draft, Gist told the Spurs he'd be willing to go to Europe if drafted. That's basically why the Spurs drafted him. He was impressive in summer league but he likely would have stayed in Austin all year anyways. So instead of having just two players developing in Austin, the Spurs could have had two in Austin and one overseas.

I think it was the right call. Not many college players willingly commit to going overseas prior to even being drafted. It basically gave the Spurs a free season to scout him and kept his D-League eligibility for two more years.

He could have won summer league MVP and I think the Spurs still make the same choice.

[EricB]

Prior to the draft, Gist told the Spurs he'd be willing to go to Europe if drafted. That's basically why the Spurs drafted him. He was impressive in summer league but he likely would have stayed in Austin all year anyways. So instead of having just two players developing in Austin, the Spurs could have had two in Austin and one overseas.

I think it was the right call. Not many college players willingly commit to going overseas prior to even being drafted. It basically gave the Spurs a free season to scout him and kept his D-League eligibility for two more years.

He could have won summer league MVP and I think the Spurs still make the same choice.

I think also Tolliver seemed more NBA ready than Gist at the time.

[Blackjack]

Prior to the draft, Gist told the Spurs he'd be willing to go to Europe if drafted. That's basically why the Spurs drafted him. He was impressive in summer league but he likely would have stayed in Austin all year anyways. So instead of having just two players developing in Austin, the Spurs could have had two in Austin and one overseas.

I think it was the right call. Not many college players willingly commit to going overseas prior to even being drafted. It basically gave the Spurs a free season to scout him and kept his D-League eligibility for two more years.

He could have won summer league MVP and I think the Spurs still make the same choice.

Don't you think it had something to do with when they'd be able to start his contract?

It would seem to make some sense, financially speaking, in the bigger picture.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Didn't I read here on ST only weeks ago that those in the know say Gist to Italy is basically an arranged deal, everyone knows he was sent there for some seasoning and will be back to play for us next year... or was that a Kill Bill Pana rant?

[EricB]

Didn't I read here on ST only weeks ago that those in the know say Gist to Italy is basically an arranged deal, everyone knows he was sent there for some seasoning and will be back to play for us next year... or was that a Kill Bill Pana rant?

I think its in this thread that there was an interview with an italian scout where he pretty much stated "we know hes spurs property"

That may be different from what you mean, but thats how I took it.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I think its in this thread that there was an interview with an italian scout where he pretty much stated "we know hes spurs property"

That may be different from what you mean, but thats how I took it.

Thanks, must be on the second page because I didn't re-read it, but that's exactly what I was referring to.

[tp2021]

The article linked in the first post has been updated.
They now said that Spurs will send members of theirs staff to follow Gist at various moments of the season.
Gist has signed with this team with Spurs' agreement. Spurs likely didn't want to spend time, money and a roster spot on Gist this year.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102646

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102646

That's a different, but similar, post to the one I am thinking about.

[Obstructed_View]

I really don't think the Tolliver and Gist decisions were all that related. If they thought that there was any chance they wanted Gist on the roster in 2008-09, they would have brought him to training camp.

And there was no chance for Gist once Tolliver hit those threes in summer league. I wouldn't be surprised if Pop called the team travel agent the day after that game.

[biziofromdowntown]

I'm the Fabrizio of 48minutesof talks...wanna know something more about him?

I'm going to se a match onight, if u want i could ask him something.

[objective]

how about if he's going to play in the summer league?

[biziofromdowntown]

how about if he's going to play in the summer league?

[urunobili]

I'm the Fabrizio of 48minutesof talks...wanna know something more about him?

I'm going to se a match onight, if u want i could ask him something.

Can you ask him if he has expectations to make the roster this year?

Did pop and RC visited or talked to him while they were in Europe?

[lurker23]

I'm the Fabrizio of 48minutesof talks...wanna know something more about him?

I'm going to se a match onight, if u want i could ask him something.

I'd like to know if the Spurs coaching staff has talked to him about what position he would play in the Spurs system (i.e.- do they see him as a SF/PF, or just a PF?). Thanks!

[Borosai]

I'd like to know if the Spurs coaching staff has talked to him about what position he would play in the Spurs system (i.e.- do they see him as a SF/PF, or just a PF?). Thanks!

Me too.

[leemajors]

Can you ask him if he has expectations to make the roster this year?

Did pop and RC visited or talked to him while they were in Europe?

thanks for offering Fabrizio

[benefactor]

How many games are left for him over there?

[lefty]

The GIST !!!!!

[benefactor]

Ok...I stopped being lazy.

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?C...am=2106&Page=2

Look like the regular season will be over in just a few days. How do they structure the post season? Will Angelico Biella make it?