Gortat is going to cost a lot..he's already stated that he would like to be a starter next year, and it was rumored earlier that he would consider going back to Europe if he doesn't get the $ here..
it's going to take the MLE IMO..
as for Gortat or Gooden, I'd take The Polish Hammer..
from what i saw of him, i liked.
he's confident going to the basket from what i saw and has to heart to play well, as in he's always going to be trying out there for any team really
i wouldnt mind seeing him in SAS as a back up C or maybe starter, anythings better than bonner at C
He would likely start here. I don't know if I would quite go MLE for him...but I'd do 3yrs/11-12mil for him.
I know that a lot of people like Gooden for his scoring ability but from what I have seen from Gortat he looks like the better fit. He is active around the rim and he moves very well laterally on defense for a man of his size. Not to mention he has already shown that he can step up in big game situations when called upon, as he showed when Howard was out in the playoffs.
yeah the dudes a beast, thatd be sweet if we could get him for fairly cheap
He won't come cheap. His agent will find at least one team willing to pay the MLE. Jerome James, Nazr, and Diop all found at least one full MLE offer. Kwame got 2yrs, 8M. This guy will get paid by someone.
Gortat is awesome. I approve.
I actually wouldn't mind throwing the MLE at him..big men are always going to cost more..Gortat is exactly what we need next to Timmy..
Yeah, if you sign Gortat it's going to very likely be the full MLE. Is he worth it? Tough to say. He rarely ever plays with another legit big on the Magic. He's almost always on the court when Howard is out and he's surrounded by four shooters ... so it's difficult to gauge how he'd do without Duncan. It probably isn't a good sign that Van Gundy never pairs Howard with Gortat.
I don't like that he is whining about starting ... that wouldn't fit well in San Antonio. Even if the Spurs sign him, a Duncan/Gortat frontline might not always be what makes sense in the starting lineup.
I like his rebounding, shotblocking and overall strength in the middle. He's pretty damn limited on the offensive end so there's a risk he won't work that well with Duncan. But the gains on the other end are likely worth the offensive shortcomings.
For a one-year deal at the MLE, he makes a lot of sense. Multiple years? That's tough to say. The potential payoff in the 2010 plan (via free agency or trade) is probably worth more than simply signing Marcin Gortat.
+1
And to timvp, 2010. The FO should take advantage this year. No one will come to SA when teams in big markets like the Knicks are getting ready for that.
Free agency is only one option in 2010. Trading for players on teams looking to salary dump is a very real option. And the players the Spurs will be offered will be much better than Gortat.
He is for sure better than the junk centers the Spurs have.
the reason he doesn't play with Howard is because their styles are too similar..Gortat doesn't have a reliable J, and he plays close to the basket..Howard has no ability at all to play far from the basket..
Duncan plays the high post better than any big in the NBA, and he makes the mid-range J at a pretty consistent rate..
I would rather fill the big man spot, as opposed to filling the SF spot with a big-name..getting an athletic player on the wing is a much easier spot to fill..I'd much rather the Spurs roll the dice on a guy like Hairston or Gist at the wing, as opposed to having Thomas or Bonner as our starting big next year..
I don't know how much money the MLE is, but let me tell you that if it is something close to what Bonner is making then he is totally worth it. To know this you just have to see him play, he's not only tough and pretty agile for his size, he also has a high BB IQ and he isn't as limited as you think on offense, he has a pretty decent touch around the rim.
MLE is like 5.5 millions to start and goes up by 8.5% each year. But for next year MLE will be lower because NBA make less money due to economy.
Ok two questions is Gorat better then Bourousis?
Second one is the Italian League that Gist playing in consider a competative team? i mean are we talking College or D Leauge or better?
Expect to keep on seeing Tim playing from the high-post for the remainder of his career, if this year was any indication.
Pop really believes it benefits Tim, and the team, to limit the amount of banging he recieves during the regular-season, so Tim being more of a face-up/ high-post player, seems to be his answer.
I feel where you're coming from but if you could get a player like Butler, you could probably find a good big in free-agency or the draft that could bring a similar skill-set to Gortat. , from what I saw of Javtokas in the Olympics?
They might already have a Gortat in the pipeline.
Bonner is making $3M, and the MLE is around $5.8M.
If Spurs want to give full MLE to McDyess or Sheed, I think better give it to Gortat.
Agreed, at some point you have to go younger and take the high risk/high reward route instead of the more conservative option. I wouldn't push for taking a risk on a 15M player, but Gortat for the MLE could work.
First Italy league is way above D-League. It cannot even be compared.
Gortat is good and I like him as a player Spurs should get. Compare to Bourousis? Bourousis is a MUCH more skilled player and much more complete as a talent. He is also bigger and stronger. And Bourousis can play next to Duncan and spread the floor. I would be all for Spurs to get Gortat but Bourousis is a much more skilled player than him.
Thanks Kill Bill..
Gortat just keeps impressing..
I felt strongly about going after him before, and he's made me want him even more now..I really hope we make a strong run at him, I think he would be very good in this system..he's going to have a number of teams looking at him though, so it won't be easy..I just hope the FO looks into it deeply..
Indeed. I said before that I wouldn't go full MLE for him but I am starting to have a change of heart.
He deserves the MLE.. otherwise someone else will take him for that...
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