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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Yeah, I posted a thread about local wineries a while back and specificly noted it had nothing to do with Sideways.

    It's uped them. I saw an article or news piece a while back, can't remember which, that talked about the impact it's had which has been very significant. The actual restaraunt used in the movie is now a huge tourist hot spot. Pinot Noir has gotten a lot of noteriety due to the flim as well.

    It's interesting to see the effect it's had, but wine really is good.

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    Haven't tried Dos Equis yet. Any good?

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    God Manny, how much have you had? Your spelling is even worse than usual!

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    The actual restaraunt used in the movie is now a huge tourist hot spot.
    Was that actually in Buellton or Solvang? I lived in Santa Barbara for years, but never felt the twinge to spend much time in either. The Firestones vintners in the area actually make really good beer too.

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    God Manny, how much have you had? Your spelling is even worse than usual!
    hahahah

    I'm about done with the bottle, got maybe a small glass left to go.

    Dos Equis is great, I love it.

    Chump, I haven't the faintest clue, only that the locals were pissed because their little place was the trendy tourist hot spot now. But the shop and business owners were raking it in apparently, and they had a "sideways trail" now where you went to the same wineries.

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    I think a big reason why their seems to be less reaction from the public is that, sadly, we have become desensitized to these situations.

    Manny, how was the pinot?

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    it was actually pretty decent. I dig it.

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    A shorter read about the fuel oil shipment:
    "We cannot continue to provide fuel in this manner in light of the North Korean violation of the understanding," the secretary said.

    However, Powell said, a shipment that left Singapore on November 6 with 42,800 metric tons of fuel oil and scheduled to arrive in North Korea next week will be allowed to continue.

    "We believe it was appropriate and prudent to send in this shipment, which is already on the high seas and is only a few days away from docking," he said.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/11/14/nkorea.oil/

    Much less reading. I'm sure you can explain it.

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    For the folks thinking that this is being ignored by the media...from CNN's site, today:

    BEMIDJI, Minnesota (AP) -- Three victims of the Red Lake High School shooting will have traditional Ojibwe funeral, intended to prepare the soul for a four-day journey into the afterlife.

    The ceremonies, not freely discussed with outsiders, often includes a "spirit dish" to nourish the departing soul and rouge for a blush on the cheeks of the beloved.
    CNN story

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    How nice of CNN to include them on their website along with the hundreds of other stories they post on there.

    Please, the comparison between this shooting and the others in the past shows quite clearly that the level of coverage has been short of impressive.

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    because this stuff is becoming common.

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    Was that actually in Buellton or Solvang? I lived in Santa Barbara for years, but never felt the twinge to spend much time in either. The Firestones vintners in the area actually make really good beer too.

    Ha! Solvang! No passport required.

    FYI--You do not need to be a member of Costco to buy from their liquor store. Some decent prices on wine and booze.

    Dos XX dark is good. Dos XX in the green bottle is meh.

    Carry on...

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    Please, the comparison between this shooting and the others in the past shows quite clearly that the level of coverage has been short of impressive.
    It's also in the middle of ing nowhere. I don't recall the Jonesboro AR shootings getting the coverage of Columbine, either. ing hillybily discrimination. Why aren't you whining about that, or isn't that a cause worthy enough for you to ing care?

    Columbine is right the outside of Denver, one of the largest and easiest airports to get a flight to in the country. When that asshole court shooter in ATL was on the loose, and they locked down all those schools, guess what? Those were CITY schools in Atlanta with lots of minority children in them, and that got HUGE live burn on TV. Again, major metropolis and easy airport access.

    Don't attribute to malice what can be explained away by sheer laziness and lack of research, for example, your argument, Manny.

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    Silly me, thanks for correcting me. I'll respond to this later, I don't have the time to do it right now.

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    How nice of CNN to include them on their website along with the hundreds of other stories they post on there.
    By your argument, the Columbine coverage was irrelevant, too, since it was buried with hundreds of other stories on each website.

    Have fun with your hangover, Manny.

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    No hangover, Ex. Television time is more more valuable than webspace. It's a very simple point to make. I'm going to post facts to back up what I'm saying, but I don't have time right now because I have to leave in a bit.

    Also I don't insult you when we disagree. However, if you want me to start, continue to be an asshole.

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    Don't attribute to malice what can be explained away by sheer laziness and lack of research, for example, your argument, Manny.
    Was this the "insult" you refer to? I call it an "observation" based on this:

    How nice of CNN to include them on their website along with the hundreds of other stories they post on there.
    That was ing weak, Manny. I calls 'em as I see's em.

    Edit: BTW, it was your "argument" that was attacked, not you. There was no ad hominem element there.
    Last edited by exstatic; 03-27-2005 at 12:41 PM.

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    Man this thread took more turns than I don't know what.
    For a minute I thought it was a wine thread.

    Bush should have reacted much more promptly.

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    People like to talk a lot. What are you going to do about situations like this? Are you personally going to take any action?
    attempt to establish some form of preventive measures to prevent such a horrific act from occurring again.

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    Ha! Solvang! No passport required.

    FYI--You do not need to be a member of Costco to buy from their liquor store. Some decent prices on wine and booze.

    Dos XX dark is good. Dos XX in the green bottle is meh.

    Carry on...
    Holy Mother of Stuff. I never thought I'd use the word Solvang in an Internet forum, anywhere.

    I remember Solvang, and all its windmills, like it was yesterday.

    And I remember camping out at Lake Cachuma and listening to the World Series on a transistor radio as Tom Seaver pitched for the Mets against the A's back in 1973.

    What a sweet flashback.

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    More non-coverage of Red Lake by the mainstream media...
    TIME magazine online story

    Sunday, Mar. 27, 2005
    Ashley Lajeunesse was doing math homework in study hall when she heard the first shotgun blast. She thought it was a student dropping a stack of textbooks. Then came another bang. Then another. The other students in the room looked up in sudden, knowing panic. No one could speak. The teacher in charge, Neva Rogers, walked to the door, turned the lock and shut off the lights. She too sensed what was happening. A gunman was in the school, and he was heading their way.

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    I think the reason we've heard less about this case is that we're not sure if this kid listened to Marilyn Manson or played Doom video games.

    About 75% of the Columbine coverage was related to people trying to figure out what "caused" such an act of violence. This case offers less fodder for the Focus on the Family crowd.

    Basically, Columbine was a news story, then a Soapbox Topic for weeks after that. This case might be more of one if people weren't already crowded in the Schiavo Soapbox arena.
    Last edited by Spurminator; 03-28-2005 at 12:47 AM.

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    Did they conclude that native kids just do that kind of thing as a matter of course?

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    I just think people are probably a little less surprised by news of a poor angry native American kid than rich angry white kids.

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    Agreed. Probably chalking it up to firewater.

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