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    R.C, Pop and Buford?
    I meant Holt. Although I know Holt probably has very little to do with player personnel.

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    I doubt anyone wants Thomas or Oberto unless they are packaged with a George Hill or Splitter's rights.


    See above.....



    Holt should have already fired Bufford.

    Or send him to the blackhole known as Pop's doghouse.

    Exactly why would Pop want an athletic player?



    Bufford? What has he done lately? Finding Parker was a long time ago.
    Oberto and Bowen both are scheduled for ~$4M next year, and BOTH deals are only 50% guaranteed. That's going to be a commodity this summer. That $2M for either is better than cash thrown in because it comes off your CAP figure, as well as hitting your pocket.

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    This draft is very weak so after the top three picks their is a huge differnce in what you are potentialy getting. I think alot of teams that fall after the fith spot will look at trades or trading out of the first round. I just hope that we can get value for our players and not do something stupid like giving Scola away for a late second rounder.!

    The talk of trading Splitters rights is just plain stupid did we not learn anything from the Scola trade.... O.........

    I agree that this draft is realy weak when it comes to bigs and I am hoping that we could move Oberto and Thomas and get something decent like a draft pick or a SF.

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    I meant Holt. Although I know Holt probably has very little to do with player personnel.
    Dennis, Dell and George.

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    George Hill for #25

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    ironically, some mock drafts have the thunder drafting sam young at the 25 spot, a player i think is most needed by the spurs.

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    Well I've seen this a coming all along... http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126639

    I think they may trade the rights to Splitter and maybe Fabrico to get the pick. In return the Spurs would get Damien Wilkins.

    Since they have a working relationship I would say tht OKC making the pick the Spurs want and then trading that pick after to draft may happen..

    a lot of possibilities... with OKC... but since I put up Terrance Williams as a possibility his draft stock has gone up to the 15th pick...

    So maybe the Spurs have super cool international player they wont be able to sign for 3 years in mind...
    I surely hope they aren't targeting DWilkins. Besides that, he is a free agent so no need to trade for him.

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    Patrick Mills. Make it happen.

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    When is the last time the Spurs traded up in the draft?

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    ironically, some mock drafts have the thunder drafting sam young at the 25 spot, a player i think is most needed by the spurs.
    Again, how is he any different from Malik Hairston? They're the same size, and Hairston's already proven that he's an NBA caliber defender. Young's probably a better shooter, but not by much.

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    Some of these arguments are rather banal.

    Because the Spurs have not in recent memory traded up in the draft then therefor they wont this year.

    Need dictates the move.

    That this is a weak draft.

    Again needs dictate what is week to on team may be what another team needs. To arbitrarily declare a draft week or strong, especially with the way College players have to play one year before they can declare, is beyond simplistic.
    Right, so all of those NBA scouts, the ones that get paid for a living, are wrong about this draft being weak, and you're right.

    It's not a matter of what one team needs and another doesn't, it's the fact that the players, most of them in the draft, aren't very ing good. I've heard that everyone below maybe 18-19 would grade out as second rounders in recent drafts.

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    If the Spurs are, in fact, trying to trade up, it's another indictment on the value they gave up for KT. Not saying it was a bad idea obtaining KT, they just gave up too much. They probably should've limited it to 2nd round pick at the most.

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    And this is news?

    The Spurs target a couple of players every year, and if they think they might have to move up,(or in this case, move in) they'll make an effort to.

    We've all heard the post-draft chatter about the efforts to get players like Granger, Brown, Nelson, and Cook, they've just yet to be successful.

    In other words, I'll believe it when I see it.

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    ....if we're going to go SF.

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    but since I put up Terrance Williams as a possibility his draft stock has gone up to the 15th pick...
    I suggest you not use NBA Draft.net as your guide.

    DX has had Terrence going at 14 to phoenix, even before the lottery order was known.

    All of these sites are speculative in nature and never an exact science, but from what I've seen out there, DX has some of the best insights/breakdowns of potential prospects games out there.

    The conclusions they come to aren't always that accurate, but the information is sound enough for you to come to your own conclusion.

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    ....if we're going to go SF.
    would love danny green or sam young as a 1st rounder

    2nd rounder early pick: victor claver or omri cassipi

    late 2nd rounders:vasquez and beaubois or llull if he's there

    dream draft

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    When is the last time the Spurs traded up in the draft?
    Exactly, and it will not HAPPEN again......

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    would love danny green or sam young as a 1st rounder

    2nd rounder early pick: victor claver or omri cassipi

    late 2nd rounders:vasquez and beaubois or llull if he's there

    dream draft
    Somebody that's watched Sam Young please explain why he's worth a draft pick for a team that's got plenty of guys 6'4" to 6'6". I'm not saying he isn't, I just want to know the rationale.

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    When is the last time the Spurs traded up in the draft?
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    ....if we're going to go SF.
    as much as I like Green.......for a SF he is pretty small.
    he measured 6'4.5'' without shoes last year. his wingspan is nice at 6'10'', but his standing reach is far below average at just 8'4.5''. in todays NBA you just need a SF with more size and length. Hairston is pretty much the same size, but he is stronger and more athletic. I would go with him.

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    I know there's a lot of skepticism about if the Spurs have enough interest and expendable assets to move up, but to me it seems like now is a better time than ever. The value of a standard late 20s pick is usually around $3 million, but I don't think it's going to be anything close to that this year. Consider:

    1. This is one of the weakest drafts in years
    2. Most teams are starving for money
    3. Several teams don't want to take on more salaries before the 2010 bonanza

    This draft may not have the stars that the lottery teams want, but it still looks like it could have plenty of solid roleplayers. If the Spurs really want to begin overhauling their bench, this draft gives them a lot of opportunities.

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    Pistons might be looking to move the 15th pick and Amir Johnson according to Chad Ford. They are looking for F/C's, but the draft is weak at those positions around the 15th pick. The Spurs pursued Johnson in the past, and have Splitter's and Javtokas' rights to deal. Might make sense for both teams.

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    Pistons might be looking to move the 15th pick and Amir Johnson according to Chad Ford. They are looking for F/C's, but the draft is weak at those positions around the 15th pick. The Spurs pursued Johnson in the past, and have Splitter's and Javtokas' rights to deal. Might make sense for both teams.
    Dumars might not be high on Euro bigs.

    Reference: Darko

    But there's always a possibility.

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    Dumars might not be high on Euro bigs.

    Reference: Darko

    But there's always a possibility.
    Tiago has a body of work at the highest level in Europe. If Dumars gets assurances that Tiago can be signed in 2010, it makes sense - they're rebuilding, the Spurs need young, athletic talent right now. Pistons can shave a bit of salary in the process and go after a big FA. I would be loathe to give up on Splitter though - just depends on our urgency.

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