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    Fact: Palin didn't help McCain at all.
    I'll agree with that since he did lose convincingly however she was not the cause as your side and the McCain camp like to pretend. If I had to pick the one decision that hurt him the most it would be his re ed suspension of the campaign, rushing back to washington to be the champion of the bailout that most conservatives & independents opposed, and then looking even more foolish when he failed at that.

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    I'll agree with that since he did lose convincingly however she was not the cause as your side and the McCain camp like to pretend. If I had to pick the one decision that hurt him the most it would be his re ed suspension of the campaign, rushing back to washington to be the champion of the bailout that most conservatives & independents opposed, and then looking even more foolish when he failed at that.
    I agree with all that -- but Palin was still horrible.

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    Palin was more qualified than Obama.
    was Palin more qualified than McCain?

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    Wahhh! I'm the GOP and I'm sooo mad that Obama is President! *stomp feet*

    It's so nice to see the opposite side come up with great answers to the biggest problems of our day... like taking time to try to throw the word 'socialist' in the Democrat party's name. Way to effectively use your resources!

    I might have more respect for the Right if they ever tried to actually SOLVE a problem, rather than naysay every Lefty idea and fingerpoint.
    How is that different from what the democrats do?

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    I know, I know, the President -- just today -- said America would never again use the enhanced interrogation techniques employed in the previous administration.

    So, to what could former Vice President Cheney be referring here?



    Well, I think it may be this:

    Sources: Obama ready to ban harsh interrogations


    And, indeed, he did pass an executive order in the first days of his administration that set out to reverse all manner of security and interrogation practices adopted by the Bush administration, in the period after September 11. But, did he just play a s game? After all, if he's serious about this, he could seek legislation from Congress that would outlaw such practices and codify the methods of interrogation to be used.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Barack Obama is preparing to prohibit the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques by ordering the CIA to follow military rules for questioning prisoners, according to two U.S. officials familiar with drafts of the plans. Still under debate is whether to allow exceptions in extraordinary cases.
    First, I wonder how that debate resolved and second, I wonder how the Obama people would not consider the enhanced interrogation techniques on only three (out of thousands of captured terrorists) people, to extract actionalble intelligence, wasn't "extraordinary?"

    However, Obama's changes may not be absolute. His advisers are considering adding a classified loophole to the rules that could allow the CIA to use some interrogation methods not specifically authorized by the Pentagon, the officials said. They said the intent is not to use that as an opening for possible use of waterboarding, an interrogation technique that simulates drowning.
    Hmmm...well, since it's probably classified, we'll never know but, in the absence of legislation to specifically ban the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques, there is nothing to stop President Obama from acting under his Article II powers and pursuant to the various AUMF's passed by Congress, to recons ute President Bush's CIA interrogation regimens.

    The President would be foolish to restrict his own Cons utional Powers but, hey, it was a speech full of self-subjugation to the legislative and judicial branches.

    Good for him.

    I bolded the words "the intent" because, well, we all know how government treats intentions...

    Several organizations have already sent requests to former Vice President Cheney's office to see if he'll clarify this remark. So, I guess, we'll see...

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    was Palin more qualified than McCain?
    Palin brought a different skill set to the ticket. However, she was a qualified to be president as anyone else in the race.

    She certainly wouldn't have been the buffoon of vice president Biden's proving to be...

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    what actionable intelligence?

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    Palin brought a different skill set to the ticket.
    you can say that again.
    However, she was a qualified to be president as anyone else in the race.
    thats your opinion. america has a completely different opinion that was revealed in nov.

    She certainly wouldn't have been the buffoon of vice president Biden's proving to be...
    prove it.

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    you can say that again.
    And how! WTF???

    thats your opinion. america has a completely different opinion that was revealed in nov.
    Alluding to an earlier post; Cons utionally, she was as qualified as anyone in the race. Not an opinion, a cons utional fact.

    Now, if we're talking about executive or administrative qualifications; she has far more experience, in both, than does either Biden or Obama. And thems just the facts.

    Maybe we'll get the chance in 2012.

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    Maybe we'll get the chance in 2012.
    you better hope for something else. but i'm with u :thumbsup

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    Why did McCain have to pick an unqualified VP?
    Do you really believe that?

    There's no hope of intelligence with people who believe that. She was qualified as both VP, and president.
    Uh, the American public disgrees with you.
    No, lib s disagree. Conservatives love Sarah Palin!
    Fact: Palin didn't help McCain at all.
    You're joking again, right?

    McCain wouldn't have had near the support he did without her. She brought the conservatives in. We conservatives didn't care much for senator McCain. He should be a democrat!

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    She certainly wouldn't have been the buffoon of vice president Biden's proving to be...
    She certainly would have been a buffoon on a level all her own.

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    The Repub obsession with Teleprompters is mildly amusing. I guess you need a Teleprompter to stay on message if you just say the same dumb all the time.

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    Clinton got his sucked by a twenty something in the White House, too.

    Instead of shedding the GOP of its Wilsonian fundamentalist progressivism, 'conservatives' seek to double down on the prior eight years while confirming that they haven't learned the lesson of the last federal election and also confirming that they don't have any other ideas, save for the notion that a darkie couldn't possibly have a brain and therefore is just a 'gifted speaker.'

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    Do you really believe that?

    There's no hope of intelligence with people who believe that. She was qualified as both VP, and president.

    No, lib s disagree. Conservatives love Sarah Palin!

    You're joking again, right?

    McCain wouldn't have had near the support he did without her. She brought the conservatives in. We conservatives didn't care much for senator McCain. He should be a democrat!
    Boy you guys are bent these days..I guess losing brings out the hysteria.

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