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  1. #51
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    He was very good in overtime tonight, but he's still not nearly as good as he should be. He puts up great numbers, it's true, and his team is all but in the NBA finals, but anybody that watches him can see that he has no post game, can't handle pressure defense, loses his cool, makes dumb fouls and is completely useless if he's more than 4 feet from the rim.

    So I guess I don't know if he's "overrated" or "underrated", but I know damn good and well he's not nearly as good as he could be, despite his gaudy numbers. If he had half the fundamentals that Tim Duncan had by the same age I guess he'd be averaging 30 and 20.
    what this dude said

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    You don't win the DPOY award and then be called underrated...not possible.

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    Probably the 5th best player in the league atm behind Lebron, Wade, Kobe and Paul.

    You put Chris Paul above Tim Duncan?

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    He's not underrated. His teammates have stepped up in the playoffs especially in this series. Lewis and Turkoglu have been the best players for the Magic in the ECF this year.

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    He's still not a go to guy (unless given the ball deep in the paint), but I'd take him. He should train with Amare in the offseason to try and develop his offensive game more and actually learn when to give up on certain shots to avoid the dumb goaltends.

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    I dont think he is. If he develop some better post moves instead of his lame ass hook shot he'll be unstoppable. He needs to use his strength more and back down like shaq does and be able to move his feet better

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    He's still not a go to guy (unless given the ball deep in the paint), but I'd take him. He should train with Amare in the offseason to try and develop his offensive game more and actually learn when to give up on certain shots to avoid the dumb goaltends.
    And it tells you how much work he has in front of him if Amare can teach him how to develop his offensive game.

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    And it tells you how much work he has in front of him if Amare can teach him how to develop his offensive game.
    Still wouldn't mind it if I were a Magic fan. Amare developed a jump, then he developed some range on his jumper, and more of a game facing up to the basket. He's not a true low post threat, but he's evolved from the dunking machine coming out of High School. The reason I mentioned Amare is because they have similar frames.

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    And it tells you how much work he has in front of him if Amare can teach him how to develop his offensive game.
    amare does have a nice shot at the ft line he seems to keep on scoring them in...now if d12 can extend his range out to their and a few post moves then his game is set....

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    Still wouldn't mind it if I were a Magic fan. Amare developed a jump, then he developed some range on his jumper, and more of a game facing up to the basket. He's not a true low post threat, but he's evolved from the dunking machine coming out of High School. The reason I mentioned Amare is because they have similar frames.
    And they're both amazingly athletic. Amare had spin moves and footwork coming right out of high school that Howard still doesn't have, plus Amare was an above average shooter who now has almost legitimate three point range. Amare should teach Howard offense, and Howard should teach Amare defense. Both guys would be runaway 1 and 2 for MVP every year if they did that.

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    George Hill: 2-Guard NewJerSpur's Avatar
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    And they're both amazingly athletic. Amare had spin moves and footwork coming right out of high school that Howard still doesn't have, plus Amare was an above average shooter who now has almost legitimate three point range. Amare should teach Howard offense, and Howard should teach Amare defense. Both guys would be runaway 1 and 2 for MVP every year if they did that.


    Won't get an argument from me there.

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    they need to dump Ewing and get david or even someone like kemp to help teach him offense

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    They are who they are. Amare has been in the league for 7 years. He will NOT become a defensive force. Howard is not talented on offense. He is just not natural offensively. I don't see him getting much better on offense. Bynum (already much better), Oden will all be better offensively, at least skill-wise.

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    They are who they are. Amare has been in the league for 7 years. He will NOT become a defensive force. Howard is not talented on offense. He is just not natural offensively. I don't see him getting much better on offense. Bynum (already much better), Oden will all be better offensively, at least skill-wise.
    sorry but i disagree completely, he is already better then bynum and i really doubt Oden will ever be on the court long enough to develop past Howard

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    He's better than Bynum at everything besides post-up, and FT's.

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    sorry but i disagree completely, he is already better then bynum and i really doubt Oden will ever be on the court long enough to develop past Howard
    Read. I said skill-wise on offense. Bynum has a pretty decent jumper, does Howard have anything like that? Bynum also multiple moves in the post, Howard only has a right hand hook shot. Howard is playing in the east. That definitely helps because most top post players are in the west.

    Jury is still out on Oden. From what I saw (in both college and NBA), he is more natural on offense (better feel for the game).

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    Dwight shows flashes of offensive potential (spin moves facing up, etc.)....his standup hookshot isn't so bad, but the sweeping hook needs to go; he can still develop a decent jumper.

    If Amare was brought to a team that had more of a defensive culture I think he could possibly buy into it.

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    Read. I said skill-wise on offense. Bynum has a pretty decent jumper, does Howard have anything like that? Bynum also multiple moves in the post, Howard only has a right hand hook shot. Howard is playing in the east. That definitely helps because most top post players are in the west.

    Jury is still out on Oden. From what I saw (in both college and NBA), he is more natural on offense (better feel for the game).
    you may want to call the lakers and let them know that

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    Dwight shows flashes of offensive potential (spin moves facing up, etc.)....his standup hookshot isn't so bad, but the sweeping hook needs to go; he can still develop a decent jumper.

    If Amare was brought to a team that had more of a defensive culture I think he could possibly buy into it.
    agreed he has the tools to do so

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    they need to dump Ewing and get david or even someone like kemp to help teach him offense
    No, they need to stop hiring players to coach players and find a coach. Dave Odom could probably do wonders with Howard's post game. Ewing's had two years and Howard has progressed precisely zero.

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    I'm not sure about that. He's very good player, but offensively he is actually worse than I thought. Outside of dunks or getting good position down low for an easy bucket that he can overpower his way to his offensive game is quite bad. Having said that Dwight is still a dominant player. I wonder how good would Dwight be if he wasn't so awesome athletically?

    I think the most skilled players in the NBA are guys like Tim and Kobe because they would still be pretty darn good whether they have great athletic ability or not.

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    60% shooting from the field
    I have never seen him shoot the ball.

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    He has played well but I still think he is overated with the whole superman persona, etc. Impressive, yes, underrated, no.....He has had tremendous help from Pietrus, Lewis, Hedo and Rafer this series

    He still has time to develop post moves and hopefully a 10-12 foot jumper

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