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    i still at ppl here defending Stallworth as if a .12 BAC will do nothing to your reaction time
    no ..lol...my cousin is a state trooper, and if your BAC is that high, you definitely have a horrible reaction time...

    Donte Stallworth weighs 200 lbs. For him to have a .12 BAC, which he has been said to have a BAC of .12 to .14, he would have to have had 6 and a half drinks of at least .54 ounces of alcohol, which is 80 proof liquor, every hour. Here is the book on his status at .12 BAC. And remember... .12 is the minimum that he has been shown to have had.

    0.10 — 0.125 BAC: Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time and hearing will be impaired. Euphoria. It is illegal to operate a motor vehicle at this level of intoxication in all states.

    If he gets to .14, he will begin to have dysphoria, which is an emotional state of anxiety, depression, or unease. you also acquire gross motor impairment and complete lack of physical control. You also get blurred vision and MAJOR loss of balance. Your judgment and perception are also severely impaired. Now, are you telling me that this, along with driving 10 miles over the speed limit, he could have given this guy a good enough warning? And it's ok that he was completely drunk, lost all his good judgment, had impaired motor coordination and balance, vision, and lost his reaction time, and driving, because the guy was jaywalking.

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    I doubt that giant nog who is a world class athlete with world class reaction times had motor skills or reactions anywhere near the level of an average man.
    That's just ignorant. That size of BAC will impair ANYONE'S motor skills and reaction to the point where they can't drive. It's stupid to think that because the guy's a football player, alcohol won't affect him as much

    As far as I'm concerned the punishment fit the crime.
    30 days for killing a guy while driving under the influence is a punishment fitting the crime? I know people who got 30 days for a DUI without hitting anyone, and they were below .12. Not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but do you mind if I ask how old you are? Because I don't think anyone of an adult age would truly believe that because someone is an athlete, alcohol doesn't affect them the same. And for anyone to stand up for what he did is just horrible. I really wonder what kind of person you are for thinking it was not absolutely horrible for him to get behind the wheel of a car after having at least a .12 BAC. And then he hits someone with the car, and says he gave a good enough warning, yet he was still driving fast enough to strike and kill him. So he warned him, but didn't try to stop? He was driving 10 miles over the speed limit. Flashing the lights and honking the horn is not a good enough warning when speeding when you're drunk...sorry.

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    30 days for killing a guy while driving under the influence is a punishment fitting the crime? I know people who got 30 days for a DUI without hitting anyone, and they were below .12. Not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but do you mind if I ask how old you are? Because I don't think anyone of an adult age would truly believe that because someone is an athlete, alcohol doesn't affect them the same. And for anyone to stand up for what he did is just horrible. I really wonder what kind of person you are for thinking it was not absolutely horrible for him to get behind the wheel of a car after having at least a .12 BAC. And then he hits someone with the car, and says he gave a good enough warning, yet he was still driving fast enough to strike and kill him. So he warned him, but didn't try to stop? He was driving 10 miles over the speed limit. Flashing the lights and honking the horn is not a good enough warning when speeding when you're drunk...sorry.
    I stated earlier that he only received the 30 days because he wasn't at fault. There is a law in that state designed to protect someone who's determined to be not at fault. In this case he didn't mow down this guy. The guy ran into the street in front of his vehicle. Hence the light sentence.

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    I wonder if they're going to edit his character out of Madden 10 or if it will be like Madden 08 how you could still be Michael Vick even though he was in jail.

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    I stated earlier that he only received the 30 days because he wasn't at fault. There is a law in that state designed to protect someone who's determined to be not at fault. In this case he didn't mow down this guy. The guy ran into the street in front of his vehicle. Hence the light sentence.
    I'm done with you. For some reason you think it's ok that the guy was driving at almost twice the legal limit, and a flash of his lights and honking of his horn was a good enough warning when he was driving fast enough to strike and KILL someone. I've said this before. I've been hit by a car that stopped quickly. I was able to get up and shake it off, and only limped for the day. This guy was driving fast enough to KILL this guy. There's no way in that he even tried to slow down. You are not worth my time...you're disgusting. Please stop talking to me.

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    I'm done with you. For some reason you think it's ok that the guy was driving at almost twice the legal limit, and a flash of his lights and honking of his horn was a good enough warning when he was driving fast enough to strike and KILL someone. I've said this before. I've been hit by a car that stopped quickly. I was able to get up and shake it off, and only limped for the day. This guy was driving fast enough to KILL this guy. There's no way in that he even tried to slow down. You are not worth my time...you're disgusting. Please stop talking to me.
    People who get caught breaking the law are idiots. I break the law daily and you don't see me serving 30 days in jail and 10 years of probation.

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    I wish the family hadn't settled on the civil dispute prior to Stallworth's verdict. They sold out.

    Stallworth will probably be able to play in the UFL.

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    Well lets go even further in your unreasonable "blame game". If the guy who gave Stallworth his drinks hadn't gave him those, than he wouldnt have had any alcohol in his system, and since its the alcohol that killed the man (not the fact that Stallworth was driving in a rather safe manner, and the man walked out into a street with oncoming traffic in which the traffic would not be able to swerve around him due to construction), lets blame the guy or bartender that gave Stallworth the drinks. , if he hadn't went to take classes to be a bartender, he wouldn't be in position to make the drinks, so lets blame his school. Or perhaps if John Stallworth didn't Ms. Stallworth on the night that Donte was conceieved, than he wouldn't have been in this position today, so John Stallworth, let's imprison him for life and take away all his NFL credentials for raising a son that kills intentionally kills people.

    How about we stay right where the blame belongs - on the guy who got drunk, got in his car and killed someone?

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    How about we stay right where the blame belongs - on the guy who got drunk, got in his car and killed someone?

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    How about we stay right where the blame belongs - on the guy who got drunk, got in his car and killed someone?
    or the guy who carelessly ran into the street and killed himself.

    I'll go right back to the guy who runs a red light and t-bones an guy who is legally passing through an intersection but happens to be over the legal limit. The drunk guy didn't cause the accident the other guy did.

    You guys can say what you want but the law agrees with me and his sentence shows it.

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    I'm done with you. For some reason you think it's ok that the guy was driving at almost twice the legal limit, and a flash of his lights and honking of his horn was a good enough warning when he was driving fast enough to strike and KILL someone. I've said this before. I've been hit by a car that stopped quickly. I was able to get up and shake it off, and only limped for the day. This guy was driving fast enough to KILL this guy. There's no way in that he even tried to slow down. You are not worth my time...you're disgusting. Please stop talking to me.
    I don't think its ok for him to have been driving. I just don't think he was at fault here. Neither does the law. The punishment fit the crime in my opinion.

    I don't know about you but I was raised to look before running into the street. Its not as if Dante ran up on the curb and plowed some pedestrians. I'd be singing a different tune.

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    I guess most of you guys don't realize that when you go out for dinner and have two-three beers over an hour and halfs time that you too are over the legal limit.

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    I guess most of you guys don't realize that when you go out for dinner and have two-three beers over an hour and halfs time that you too are over the legal limit.
    And after dinner if they hit someone and kill them they are responsible for killing them and deserve max sentence.

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    Lyons noted that Stallworth stopped immediately after the accident, called 911 and submitted to roadside alcohol testing despite spending most of the night drinking at a Miami Beach hotel.

    Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle cited Stallworth's lack of previous criminal record, cooperation with police and willingness to accept responsibility as factors in the plea deal. Rundle also said the Reyes family -- particularly the victim's 15-year-old daughter -- wanted the case resolved to avoid any more pain.

    After Stallworth spent the night drinking at a bar in Miami Beach's Fountainebleau hotel, police said he hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift at about 7:15 a.m.

    Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.

    Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida's .08 limit. Stallworth stopped after the crash and immediately told officers he had hit Reyes. Police estimated Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone.

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    I guess most of you guys don't realize that when you go out for dinner and have two-three beers over an hour and halfs time that you too are over the legal limit.
    Yes...but we're not at freaking .12-.14...and we don't go out and kill someone. You're standing up for a guy who drank WAY too much, got behind the wheel of a car, and killed someone...you're worthless man.

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    I agree and disagree with B2B. It was partly Reyes' fault, he did run out into the middle of the street without paying attention. I learned before I even started school to look both ways before crossing the street. However, saying that Stallworth doesn't deserve blame because of a "technicality" is wrong. If he hadn't have been drinking or taken a taxi, this tragic accident could have/probably would have been avoided. Even Stallworth admits and takes full responsibility for his actions.

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    your BAC is gonna be .08 with 2 beers in an hour and a half?? while eating?

    not sure I believe that....

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    Yes...but we're not at freaking .12-.14...and we don't go out and kill someone. You're standing up for a guy who drank WAY too much, got behind the wheel of a car, and killed someone...you're worthless man.
    Illegal is illegal the amount is inconsequential. For the millionth time I'll state that he wasn't driving erratically, swerving or otherwise breaking any moving violations. The responding officers didn't even give a field sobriety test.

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    I agree and disagree with B2B. It was partly Reyes' fault, he did run out into the middle of the street without paying attention. I learned before I even started school to look both ways before crossing the street. However, saying that Stallworth doesn't deserve blame because of a "technicality" is wrong. If he hadn't have been drinking or taken a taxi, this tragic accident could have/probably would have been avoided. Even Stallworth admits and takes full responsibility for his actions.
    He deserves blame for being over the legal limit and his punishment fit his crime. I don't think Dante's innocent. Just innocent of killing that guy. The court and the guys family for the most part see it my way.

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    He deserves blame for being over the legal limit and his punishment fit his crime. I don't think Dante's innocent. Just innocent of killing that guy. The court and the guys family for the most part see it my way.
    He is not entirely innocent of killing the guy. He was driving the vehicle. He did play a role in the death of Reyes. He was drunk. They're both at fault. I'd like to know is exactly how it happened. Did Stallworth notice Reyes before he ran out into the street and tried to warn him? He obviously knew he was going to hit the guy since he honked and flashed his lights. Was that a warning that he was coming and Reyes was running on the sidewalk? Why didn't Stallworth stop BEFORE he hit him? I know that it wasn't all Stallworth's fault, Reyes didn't do what most people have been taught at an early age. Still, if more information was given to the public, maybe we could ALL feel a little bit better about the situation.

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    He deserves blame for being over the legal limit and his punishment fit his crime. I don't think Dante's innocent. Just innocent of killing that guy. The court and the guys family for the most part see it my way.
    He's taking full responsibility for killing that guy..so why are you acting like it's no big deal? We're not talking about law here..we're talking about a guy who got behind the wheel of a vehicle at almost twice the legal limit, and was driving fast enough to kill someone with a vehicle. There's no way in he was even trying to slow down if he killed the guy. How can you stand up for this guy? He got behind the wheel of a car at .12 BAC...that's ridiculous.

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    He's taking full responsibility for killing that guy..so why are you acting like it's no big deal? We're not talking about law here..we're talking about a guy who got behind the wheel of a vehicle at almost twice the legal limit, and was driving fast enough to kill someone with a vehicle. There's no way in he was even trying to slow down if he killed the guy. How can you stand up for this guy? He got behind the wheel of a car at .12 BAC...that's ridiculous.
    Regardless of how it all went down and regardless of who is right or wrong the best thing for Dante to do is be remorseful and take full responsibility. He did the right thing by doing that.

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    So the question comes down to, is it ok for Stallworth to play in the NFL again... If the family of the dead guy says its ok, would it be ok?

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    So the question comes down to, is it ok for Stallworth to play in the NFL again... If the family of the dead guy says its ok, would it be ok?
    I don't think it matters what the family says. There is nothing wrong with him playing again. He is paying for his crime, regardless of whether anyone agrees with the severity of the punishment or not, so of course he has every right to earn a living doing what he did before after he pays for his crime.

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