Manu had 7 turnovers but he also caused 4-5 turnovers from the lakers. Without manu, the spurs lose around 5-10 more games. But manu's style of play and taking the hits he takes WILL lead to fatigue.
Well, this is high praise. It is kind of surprising considering the talent pop had over the yearsWell in the post game, Pop said that Manu is the most compe ive player that he's ever been around. Obviously Manu made some mistakes tonight, but in the end, he does what he needs to do to win.
whatever you people say.. whatever condition manu is in now.. he is still a GREAT player!! He's not the MVP in the 2004 Olympics for nothing u know...
Talking about Manu....read my signature.
"And then I went home a loser.""I knew Ginobili would try to go to his left hand and I waited," Butler said. "I read it. I'm glad they did not call me for a foul because (Ginobili) flops a lot. I then went full court and finished." ---> Caron Butler
Did he mention how he flopped and should've gotten an blocking foul on the barry shot??
Or are you gonna ignore that too Lottery kid.
So you think Manu sucks, we get it. We got it the first 100 times you posted it, its getting annoying.
Stop whinning for a second and realize that the Spurs have the 2nd best record in the league, are favourites to make it all the way and the starting line up is set for the next 5 years or something, if you don't like it, go find some other team to whine about.
I don't think the Spurs or even Manu is the problem, its like you were expecting for the Spurs to lose or not winning the championship.
By the way, Manu is 17th, tied with TP, in TO/48mins, check out some of the players ahead of him: Iverson, Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Nash, Melo.
Good point TPark.
Great post!
Manu should get more leniency than Tony. Manu brings it every night for one thing.
For another, he's playing on a sore groin. Tony's healthy.
Lmao, nice Kori.
Manu sells the fouls, it's being crafty...nothing wrong with that. But I can understand their fustration...Vlade Divac ring a bell?
Great post AHF, just a good way too boost this thread and to turn in a Paker against Ginobili thread.
I just can't remember the last game when Tony scored less than 10 points. Just admit that 7 TO and 4-12FG is a bad game for Ginobili.
You say that he had almost a trile-double. How 8 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists are close to a triple-double? Tp was closer and I didn't see you saying that he had a great game.
Weren't you the one that was saying tp is a 3/4 ? How did you like the 7 points in the last 5:30?
His stats weren't that bad too when you were claiming that he wasn't a leader.
Good oneSo you think Manu sucks, we get it. We got it the first 100 times you posted it, its getting annoying.
Stop whinning for a second and realize that the Spurs have the 2nd best record in the league, are favourites to make it all the way and the starting line up is set for the next 5 years or something, if you don't like it, go find some other team to whine about.
I don't think the Spurs or even Manu is the problem, its like you were expecting for the Spurs to lose or not winning the championship.
By the way, Manu is 17th, tied with TP, in TO/48mins, check out some of the players ahead of him: Iverson, Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Nash, Melo.
I never said that Tony was a 3/4 guy.
Again, I love Tony and his game, but over the last two years (and really the '03 playoffs as well) Manu has had a bigger impact on this team.
And yeah, I'm going to give Manu the benefit of the doubt. Have you ever pulled your groin before? I did once in high school and I couldn't even get up the stairs at school, let alone go out and play ball. I've seen players in HS, college, and pro with the same injury as Manu sit out for weeks. Manu is out there battling with NBA players.
I don't think that his injury has been affecting his game lately. He played as good as in any game this season against Houston and the 3rd quarter against Denver. Maybee he is tired but if that is the case, I am really worried about the Playoffs, he was recovering fom his injury for almost 2 weeks, if he didn't get healthy then, he will not have the time to be before the playoffs.
How can you say that Manu had a bigger impact the last two years? Parker played more, has better stastistics and winned all by himself 2 games against the Nets in 2003 and 2 games against the Lakers last year. Kidd even gave him props for his performances and Jackson focused his defense in stopping Tony. Why Manu had a bigger impact?
I agree with Frenchise player, why does every Manu thread turn into a Manu vs TP thread?
How can you compare two different players playing two different positions? how do you know what does Pop ask of them? Of course their impact in games is going to be different, Manu doesnt play PG (or at least not anymore) and TP doesnt play SG.
If you like Manu more than TP for whatever reason, or viceversa, it doesnt mean you can prove it with stats, or with some games perfomance, you just do.
Manu vs. Tony threads are getting old. It has been said 1MM times, but
I will say it again. They are both Spurs.
ENOUGH ALREADY!
Niiiiiiice
Good one Kori! =)
Ginobili gets more leniancy cause hes stepped up more IMO than Tony has.
IMO, these three days off are a godsend for Ginobili.
Now if the Spurs could get an easier win wednesday and somehow only play Ginobili about 20 mins and save him for Dallas thursday.
They might have to sit him down a couple games again too.
Why can't you understand?
I would like to now if you are counting the games where Tony and Manu steped up.
If Ginobili can't play a full season in the NBA without going into the tank, then maybe he should go back to Europe and play 40 games and STFU.
sequ would bend over for anyone...including Rasho.
Manu did have a lot of TO's the last two games, but he still makes a lot of good things happen, and he works harder than anyone on the floor. If he sucks he is the kind of sucking player I'd want on my team anytime.
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