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The Spurs brought Timmy away from the basket more last year than ever before. I'd rather have Gortat in there taking a pounding on both ends than Duncan.
If we get Gortat, we WILL NOT be a real threat to win it all. Bring on Sheed.
Plus, Gortat only made $700K last year... are we going to give him a BIG raise???
The Spurs brought Timmy away from the basket more last year than ever before. I'd rather have Gortat in there taking a pounding on both ends than Duncan.
Of course I disagree...we would be a threat to win it all!
Also, Gortat is going to raise from some team either Orl or SA or someone else.....that's the cost of doing business and he's a free agent.
Oh, and for what it's worth, Gortat had a better PER this year than Sheed.
I love Sheed & I will be happy if we get him, but Gortat isn't some dead body. He gives us something we haven't had since Dave left. Size & athleticism down low & someone who can alter/block shots.
He's no All Star, but as a starting C, he's an 8-9 point, 9-10 rebound, 2 blocks, 1 steal type player.
he very well might and i like Gortat a lot. But i think even if Gortat reached his full potential, it's still not gonna be close to the level that Sheed is at.
Yes, Sheed has lost a step but i thought a lot of his deficiencies last year were due to the fact that he knew Detroit was not going anywhere.
A driven Sheed who wants to win a championship is a very scary player and he might just utilize his endless talent to make this team a championship team again.
That brings up another tiny concern i have with Gortat and whether he'd be still willing to work hard once he gets a raise and whether he can survive under Pop.
we know sheed can when he played for LB and i just think that Sheed wants to win a championship and shut up all his critics.
You crazy? Even if we signed Gortat to a longer deal, he becomes a real good starting center, then it is all worth it. With Sheed, you never know when he will mail it in.
Yep....another one for Gortat!!! Whoo-hoo!!
I am glad you are not the GM, or you would build a crappy team.
How do you know that he would make a great starting center??? Has he ever been a starting center other that a few games here and there????
I am glad you are not the GM, or you would build a crappy team.
Oh yeah a crappy team....when you have one of the top PGs in the league, probably the best PF in our generation, the slasher and dynamic SG in Manu, and just traded for the SF that you've needed since Sean Elliott and all we need a legit 6'11 or 7'0 who has proven he can protect the paint and defend bigs and rebound....
Boy I would a be terrible GM...thanks for the compliment!!
Why can't Ian be our starting center??? He is a better opton then Gortat.
ian needs to prove that he can stay healthy before we even think of giving up the starting spot.
Thanks....there is some common sense in this thread!!!
How the is Ian a better option at this point???
Gortat has actually produced, and again, go look at his numbers when he plays 20 or minutes a game.
That's a funny comment considering your post above.
Has Ian even played a playoff game before? Damn it.
Gortat did well closing out the 76ers game with Howard suspended. Gortat is not a stiff either.
You would not have traded for Jefferson, you would have traded for Gortat. MR. WEB GM... you rule!!!Oh yeah a crappy team....when you have one of the top PGs in the league, probably the best PF in our generation, the slasher and dynamic SG in Manu, and just traded for the SF that you've needed since Sean Elliott and all we need a legit 6'11 or 7'0 who has proven he can protect the paint and defend bigs and rebound....
Boy I would a be terrible GM...thanks for the compliment!!
Oh my God, dude, step away from the ing crack pipe. Did you see Gortat's stats in the games he started? Did you see him in the playoffs? He's got a big body, great timing and athletecism, he's got soft hands and he's a good finisher and excellent rebounder and shot blocker. He would easily be the best center this team's had since Robinson left.
So, a bunch of team must be lining up for Gortat. Man, we better hurry up and sign this guy before another contender does.
Oh yes I would have traded for Jefferson!!! Give me a little credit!!!You would not have traded for Jefferson, you would have traded for Gortat. MR. WEB GM... you rule!!!
LOL!!!
I liked your post though......
I doubt the Spurs are even looking at this guy anyway. I am not worried.
In games where Gortat played 20 or minutes: (there were 16 this season/playoffs)
He averaged 8 points, 9 boards & 1.6 blocks. Most of those games were between 20-25, so add a bit to those numbers to project him as a starter.
He had an 18 rebound game & a 5 blocks game in those. In those 16, he had 5 13-15 rebound games & 6 games with 3 or more blocks.
So, Ian, at this point, is a safer bet?
And once again, there will be quite a few teams after him. , google his name, he'll be a hot commodity.
Last edited by jj cain; 06-27-2009 at 08:47 PM.
Yes he's physically and instinctively a great post defender. He can get inside peoples heads better than anyone in one on one battles.
But it's not 2005 anymore. He still shows flashes of it, and I'm sure going to a new team will rejuvenate him. But his body is breaking down. There's too many bigs in the west who are either too athletic or too versatile in their ability to put the ball on the floor to make me think he'd look anything like he did a few years ago in a weak Eastern Conference.
Gasol, West, Dirk, Jefferson, Yao, Aldridge, Gasol, Blake .... etc etc
Seeing that type of player, game after game? No way. He'll end up looking silly more often than not. And don't think about putting him on an outside shooting big man. He's too slow to close out on the perimeter, and rarely quick enough to get back to the basket after it's passed inside.
I'm not trying to crap on him. Like I said, he'd be a great addition and be a big help. I just don't think he should be the prime target for the Spurs. I think there's better options.
So, how much should we pay this guy to come play for the Spurs??? Remember, he made 700K last year... be carefull... think about it. Play GM
Does that matter? Sheed got 14 million last season and played like crap.So, how much should we pay this guy to come play for the Spurs??? Remember, he made 700K last year... be carefull... think about it. Play GM
If we don't get Sheed, offer him 3-3.5 have a year and go from there. Orlando will probably match anything below and if Turkoglu goes elsewhere & they don't have better options.
im not looking for sheed to shut down the 4 night in night out. i mean we got by with MATT FREAKING BONNER at the 5 and still gave up the 2nd fewest points in the league.
im talking about a 7 game series against the lakers where Sheed would totally disrupt Pau and give the spurs another outside shooter when they pack in the lane to try and stop Parker.
i could care lesss if the Spurs get the best record in the league next year cuz its gonna all come down to how we match up against the lakers.
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