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at this point i dont even care what we get back for bonner, he must go.
bonner is the albatross hes the consumate symbol of all that was wrong with our team last year and a half
I have no problem with seeing Bonner and Finley dealt. Assuming that Bowen will be waived and available, Finley is less useful. Plus, even if the Spurs have Ginobili, Jefferson, and Mason in the swingman rotation, Pop will find a way to play Finley 25 minutes a night.
The affair must end.
at this point i dont even care what we get back for bonner, he must go.
bonner is the albatross hes the consumate symbol of all that was wrong with our team last year and a half
Bonner playing heavy minutes was a symptom of the problem. He's fine as a 4th/5th big. The problem was that the Spurs didn't have anyone else, so you had Bonner as the 2nd/3rd big.
Exactly. If Bonner is used as maybe a 4th big, he's not bad at all, so I would keep him, however, if he must be included in a deal to get a starting-caliber big, I'm all for it. Let him go.
Finley isn't going anywhere. Somehow the youth movement excludes Finley. If Pop does play Finley 25-30 minutes a night, then the whole youth movement is a joke and a waste. I'm not even joking.
Yeah, the Finley bashing is harsh but considering how many millions he's made, I think it's part of the territory. Nice guy. Just please retire.
I have no problem with Finley as the 4/5th swing man. Also his expiring contract could be useful at some point. With all the youth potentially coming in, his experience with the Spurs system will help integrate the new players. If Bowen is on the team somehow then I would say no to Finley.
If Finley exercises his option, he's gone. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Spurs deal every other expiring contract they have at this point (except for Manu & perhaps Mason).
Maybe Collison?
For the bench, sure.
In an ideal world, bonner+ mason+ splitter's rights for Varejao
???
Varejo is a free agent. They can just sign him outright.
He's a free agent but he will look for more than the MLE, so sign and trade is a good way to get him
Cavs would like shooters to create some space for Shaq and Lebron
Finley shouldve been the sole reason for the youth movement in San Antonio.
He can look for it all he wants, that doesn't mean he'll get it. Even if he does, fine, let him make his money elsewhere. We're better off using our MLE on someone else and keeping Mason, Bonner and Finley.
I think he can get that. And besides varejao, dice, and sheed, none of the bigs options would have such impact for the rest of duncan's contract here
And, i just think that the team, still payin' the luxury tax, would be less stacked, but more balanced, openin' space for MacClinton and Georgie and Mahinmi, and a little less tax to pay maybe
Finley and Bonner could bring in any player or (combo of players) whose salary is $6.9 million or less this season.
Wanna know who falls into that category?
Jared Jeffries
Joel Przybilla
Martell Webster
Leandro Barbosa (doubt PHX would trade with SA though)
Francisco Garcia
Matt Harpring
Kyle Korver
Andrea Bargnani
Michael Pietrus
Nick Collison
Nenad Kristic
Morris Peterson
James Posey
Jeff Foster
Shane Battier
Jason Maxiell
John Salmons
Tim Thomas
Raja Bell
Nazr Mohammed
Dasagana Diop
There are a few others that I didn't include becuase there's no way FInley & Bonner would convince their team to give them up. The guys above are either attainable or at least POSSIBLY attainable (team trying to dump salary) for Finley & Bonner.
I agree with your point, but I wouldn't want the majority of those guys, even for Finley-Bonner..
I'd take Garcia for the pair and possibly another from SAC but idk the numbers
BTW, to the people who are suggesting we can get Camby for Bonner and Finley; your math is WRONG!
Camby =$9.65 million
Bonner/Finley = $5.5 million
The highest possible salary Bonner & Finley could get us in return is $6.9 million. Camby is not an option unless you throw in Mason too.
DO NOT USE HOOPSHYPE for salaries. Shamsports and ESPN trade machine are more reliable.
Hoopshype says Camby makes $7.65 million
shamsports and ESPN say $9.65 million
Only player on that list I'd want is Pryzbilla, and MAYBE Posey, but Posey I think is on his last legs.
Posey is overpaid because of his playoff heroics for Boston. He did not earn his money last season for New Orleans.
Battier, Salmons, Pietrus, and Pryzbilla. all would be great fits.
CV not getting a QO from the Bucks suddenly makes a S&T more interesting if Finley opts in. If you can get the Pacers to part with Jeff Foster(or OKC with Collison), then sign CV for what his QO would have been you wind up with a pretty damn deep team.
Parker/Hill
Mason/Manu/McClinton
RJ/Hairston/Gist
Duncan/CV/Gist
Foster(Collison)/Mahmni/Blair
Foster is constantly hurt, doesn't block shots and stinks.
Collison is another DeJuan Blair no thanks.
Villenueva stinks.
Sheed or Deyss.
16 points, 7 rebounds, and a block in 27 minutes a game does stink. Great call.
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