The Lakers being a dynasty is not riding on whether we resign Ariza or not.
Odom on the other hand...
We cant afford to lose either player. Forget even repeating if we fail to resign Ariza and/or Odom. Contract year or not, pay up Buss. I hope Kobe is pushing Buss to open his wallet. We have a real shot at being a dynasty here. God forbid if we have to resort to ing Luke Walton back as the starting sf.
The Lakers being a dynasty is not riding on whether we resign Ariza or not.
Odom on the other hand...
For anyone that thinks he's just being a stupid homer, Lakaluva isn't flip flopping here, he's always had the stance Ariza type players are a dime a dozen. As important as he was to LA this year, he isn't worth more than the MLE.
Lets say LA loses Ariza and signs Grant Hill, they don't really lose a whole lot, heck they might even get beeter.
We gotta stop this Laker fan on Laker fan violence. I won't stand for it.
Ariza going to the Cavs is the latest story. Way to go Lakers, lmao.
Both bring different things to the table. Having a guy like Ariza made LA that much better. He is a vital role player for this team. A guy like this isnt that easily replaceable. Same goes for Odom. And going after old ass Grant Hill. That guy would hurt the team more than he would help it due to him being a ty shooter.
Oh......your so alone.
Spurs fan hate on the likes of Matt Bonner and Michael Finley, Laker fans hate on the likes on Ariza, a man the Lakers wouldn't have won the championship without, and literally DIDN'T win it without last season
5.6/yr is insulting when you factor in what other SF's on his level are getting paid, even when you factor in what some of his own teammates are getting paid that he's much better than. i dont know who, but SOMEONE should have taken a paycut to accommodate him
Spurs won in 2007, how is that down in the dumps for years? You are a roach Laker fan.
Ya, you did not have Ariza and you got ed by the Celtics in an epic fashion.
Gino is still a Spur, if he was done and the managment knew this as you said, he would have been traded.
Ariza is NOT worth much more than the MLE. Any team dumb enough to pay him upwards of $7 million is outside their minds.
He is a product of the Laker's system more than anything. Playing alongside Kobe and Gasol allows him to play to his strengths.
Odom is not replaceable. Artest could come in for Ariza and you could argue the Lakers are a better team for at least this next season, now can the Lakers get Artest for the MLE, not sure, but it's not that far off. If Grant Hill is starting for the Lakers next year it's better then Luke but quite a drop off from the Ariza.
While I agree with Lakaluva about Ariza not being worth more than the MLE, I agree with 21_Blessings that it's a stretch to compare him to Walton and Vujacic.
Maybe so, but that does not change how effective he was in his role with the Lakers. They needed him to win. Lose him and you get worse and you have question marks surrounding the position and others fitting in so well.
Think about it though, if you're Ariza and you're looking at the Lakers roster and dudes like Walton and VUJACIC! are making basically the same money as what the Lakers offered you, I'd probably be asking for a couple more million too, Ariza is way better then those scrubs and deserves to make more money then them.
Co-sign.
It's not a stretch, that comparison makes no sense at all. Lakaluva just likes the , that's all.
Full MLE is like 6 year about, if it takes 7 to keep Ariza you might as well do it. I could give a that Buss would have to pay a whole 2 more million in luxury taxes. 8-9 million - no one is that stupid.
Hill's defense isn't as good as Ariza's, plus his age/ankle. And a guy like Matt Barnes.
If it's Artest or Marion for the MLE I'll throw a ing kegger. Would be funny if Artest and Marion end up taking less than Trevor Ariza though![]()
Bad choice of subs ute players there. Grant Hill is past whatever small prime he had thanks to all his injuries, and is more of a mid-range shooter. He might be one of the better defenders on the Suns, but seeing how the Suns don't play a lick of defense, that's not saying much.
Ariza on the other hand, while he might not be worth more than the MLE, he's an excellent defender who has a much improved 3-point shot. He was actually one of the only Lakers not named Kobe or Gasol who provided some kind of consistency in the playoffs.
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