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QUOTE=Texas 2 Step;3518322]Artest is so overrated. Did you not notice how he dominates the ball, is a piss poor shooter, turnover and foul prone and his speed is below avg for a wing player. Ariza was a better fit with more upside than Artest. Hes also gonna slow dow the Lakers fast break game as hes a half court player.[/QUOTE]
You homer fans are a joke. Many on this board said Gasol was not going to help the Lakers . You were part of the crowd that said Gasol was soft and was not going to help the Lakers.
Artest > Ariza
The spurs improved more with the additions of jefferson and Blair but they were not even close to the Lakers with their weak frontline and that is still an issue. Wallace would help but not even enough against a healthy Laker team and there is a good chance the spurs don't even get Wallace. He isn't the player he once was anymore and he is the spurs top choice. Thats how thin the spurs are.
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If by sober up you mean Kobe's idea of date, and by date I mean rape, yeah we will do that to Lakers. Then we will apologize and the world will move on... in time.... but we won't trust them again.Right on all fronts. It seems the ron artest kool aid is intoxicating the LA faker crowd. But we will sober them up soon and very soon.
Artest and Bowen were both considered the best perimeter defenders two, maybe three years ago. At this point, they've both lost that lateral mobility. The Spurs were smart enough to recognize it. LA apparently wasn't.
I'll give you that he had a good season in Houston last year. He usually has that honeymoon season, or in the case of years when a team desperately dumps his psycho ass mid-season, a honeymoon half season. Then it comes apart.
The reason Houston advanced was that he has more balls that TMac. Unfortunately for LA, he has less brains than you.
P.S. How's that Payton for Parker looking about now? And what's Chris Whitney up to these days?
[/quote]Even if the spurs add Wallace theLakers still have the size advantage and edge. But Wallace would it closer between the two teams.
Artest is a beast that plays on both ends of the floor. He will nuetralize Jefferson. Gasol,Bynum and Odom still pose matchup problems for the spurs. Wallace would help but theres a great chance Orlando or the Celtics land Wallace and the spurs end up with their 4'th option.
The Lakers have a great front office.
You are adding in Odom, which I already said gives LA advantage. If LA can't resign than our bench is much better than LA.
Also, Jefferson has a lot more speed an athleticism than Finley which is important.
If the Spurs are able to find a decent big man there really is not a sized advantage.
Parker 6'2 vs Fisher 6'1
Manu 6'6 vs Kobe 6'6
Jefferson 6'7 vs Artest 6'7
Duncan 7'0 vs Gasol 7'0
????? Between 6'10-7'0 vs Bynum 7'0
The advantage on truly comes in effect if LA resigns Odom
Hou vs Mil Jefferson 25pts 4rebs, 4 ast
Mil vs Hou 16pts 5rebs, 2ast
Sac vs Nj 36pts 9reb, 3ast
NJ vs Sac 18pts 4rebs
I would not calling this neutralizing.
Bowen=Best perimeter defender even now.
[QUOTE=Ghost Writer;3518158]Well, I was happy.
Until last night when I learned that the defending champion Lakers would be signing Ron Artest, the game's best perimeter defender who can also hit a shot.
The Spurs had opportunities to get the mercurial Artest via trade and/or free agency since 2001 when the Bulls offered him to San Antonio for scraps.
Homers like exstatic feared that he would go nuts like he did in Indiana about 5 seasons ago.
Well, I hope his performance with the undermanned Rockets showed you something.
Now the Lakers are more powerful than ever and the Spurs' offseason positioning is all for nothing.
Did you watch much of the Rockets this year? What they thought they were getting was low post beast, defensive stopper Ron Artest...what they got was three point chucker, bad shot selection RonRon...and he wasn't near the defensive force he has been in years past, in fact not even the best defender on the team- that would be Shane Battier.
Does he really make the Lakers that much better on defense? I don't think so...offensively he has more to offer than Ariza, but there are only so many shots to go around. If it ain't broke don't fix it. The Lakers don't need any more stars, they need great role players who do their jobs well. That ain't exactly RonRon's style.
At best this is slightly better than a lateral move given the age differences, skill sets and what the Lakers will need out of that position. At worst, this has a chance to be a destructive poison pill and an introduction of a problem where one previously did not exist. This is not Garnett to the Celtics or Gasol to the Lakers...take a deep breath, relax and wait and see how the rest of this offseason plays out. Long way to go.
The difference is now we have a 270lb rookie that is hungry, motivated, and can rebound like a machine. Please don't tell me because he is only 6' 7" that he can't box out Gaosol's twiggy ass or even Bynum for that matter. The truth of the matter is that you Laker fans are the ones getting piss scared. Philip and Buss saw how much better the Spurs have made themselves with adding Jefferson, Blair, McClinton, and who the knows, maybe even Gist and Hairston. Now we have the youth and athleticism to compete with your overrated Laker team. If anything, you have made your team worse by signing Artest. Face it Laker fans, your team is running scared now because the Spurs have made all the right moves this offseason and it isn't over yet.
Jesus ing Christ - the off season isnt even over and SA has already improved itself significantly while not being done...and Ghost is throwing in the towel on next season come July?
Do it already
very very very hungry. Like all the time.
If your team is up for dinner, I would tell him to have seconds!
The difference is now we have a 270lb rookie that is hungry, motivated, and can rebound like a machine. Please don't tell me because he is only 6' 7" that he can't box out Gaosol's twiggy ass or even Bynum for that matter. The truth of the matter is that you Laker fans are the ones getting piss scared. Philip and Buss saw how much better the Spurs have made themselves with adding Jefferson, Blair, McClinton, and who the knows, maybe even Gist and Hairston. Now we have the youth and athleticism to compete with your overrated Laker team. If anything, you have made your team worse by signing Artest. Face it Laker fans, your team is running scared now because the Spurs have made all the right moves this offseason and it isn't over yet.
nobody is scared of the spurs...a rookie who didn't even get in the top 25 draft picks in the weakest draft in a long time? yeah teams should be really worried of him
With A player gasols size, maybe thirds.If your team is up for dinner, I would tell him to have seconds!
I'm only responsing to even more idiotic posts by many spurs fans on here...the only people who are acting arrogant are spurs fans making statements that gasol is soft, lakers got worse and lakers should be scared of the spursanother worried Lakers fan...god you are still the most arrogant, idiotic fans in the NBA.
Sheed didn't play on the inside much last year and shot a bunch of 3's on a crappy Pistons team. Sorry to say but Gasol is the biggest in the NBA, screaming like a little girl everytime someone makes a little contact with him on the block and of course getting the call.I thought Dirk was a until I saw Gasol play on a consistent basis.
SERIOUSLY...THATS WHAT YOU CALL IDIOTIC
i'm new to this forum so i will just assume that ghostwriter is the reigning hyperbole champion.
News flash...the Lakers were better than the Spurs or anyone else in the West at this point before they got Artest. Swapping basically Artest for Ariza didn't change things in that regards.
The Spurs need to worry about getting better to compete in the west with the Lakers & the rest of the West.
The Lakers signing Artest does not diminish anything the Spurs have done thus far which has been good or will do well in the future.
I, for one, was not handing the Spurs the le because they signed Jefferson or even if they sign Rasheed like so many have. If Manu & Duncan come back healthy and can play up to their levels, the Spurs will be in the mix....and anything can happen.
You can be ready to handy the 2010 crown to LA but remember there are no guarantees no matter how good it may look.
Last edited by mytespurs; 07-03-2009 at 09:51 AM.
, Im glad they got Artest and got rid of Ariza. He'll get in touble in L.A., go ape at some point. Artest has proven to not be a difference maker at any point in his career.
I like this move by the Lakers.
that soft guy just helped lead his team to a le while your spurs got stomped in 5 games against the freaking mavs...you have no reason to be arrogant.
richard freaking jefferson isn't the answer to your problems.
Who said anyone is scared of the Spurs???!!!
nobody is scared of the spurs...a rookie who didn't even get in the top 25 draft picks in the weakest draft in a long time? yeah teams should be really worried of him
You have the best team in the league and your team just won the championship. The Spurs got knocked out of the first round. No, the Spurs aren't better than your team and your team would beat the Spurs handily in the season and best of 7 playoff series. Feel better?
I don't get why you feel the need to belabor the obvious points over and over and over.........
And for the record, while the Spurs may not be all that, they're not exactly lottery material either. They won 50 games this year, they won their division-at least respect that.
The Gist is offended by your tone.
Wasn't particularly close either. When the Rockets had to sit Battier and moved RonRon to Kobe, it had roughly the same effect as to when the Spurs sat Bruce and switched Udoka onto Kobe in 2008.
LMAO at Casper returning to true emo form.
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Completely agree with this.
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