Laker fans, lets be honest

[LakeShow]

@ Spursfans and others who think they have a clue about the Lakers. Most of you don't realize that Ariza just had a great finals series against the magic and an adequate playoffs all together. Ariza is a good defender but he seldom shut anyone down. He couldn't stop Carmelo, Pierce or Lebron. Artest can. He didn't even start all year because he couldn't hit a shot. Sure I would love to have Ariza because he now knows the system but you're fooling yourselves to believe that the Lakers need him to win. Artest will be a of an upgrade. He can create, has a low post game and is good in a dribble drive. Artest will excel in the Lakers system. He will make a name for his self just being a great one on one defender, and if you say that he can not do that, you're fooling yourselves. I find it amazing that you think Duncan will do all of the same things that he used to do, even though it is obvious that he is declining, but Artest will not.

Nice pickup for the Spurs in getting Richard Jefferson although he is not a player that will put fear in the Lakers. Wallace will be a nice pickup for the Spurs and will make them possibly the second best team in the Western conference. I would really be concerned with him going to the Spurs five years ago. Today, I am not worried. Losing Bruce is another big concern for the Spurs going up against the Lakers. You don't have anyone who can guard him now but,

all of that is irrelevant. The Lakers own the Spurs and I don't care who they suit up, they will beat the Spurs. They always do!

[Spursfan092120]

@ Spursfans and others who think they have a clue about the Lakers. Most of you don't realize that Ariza just had a great finals series against the magic and an adequate playoffs all together. Ariza is a good defender but he seldom shut anyone down. He couldn't stop Carmelo, Pierce or Lebron. Artest can. He didn't even start all year because he couldn't hit a shot. Sure I would love to have Ariza because he now knows the system but you're fooling yourselves to believe that the Lakers need him to win. Artest will be a of an upgrade. He can create, has a low post game and is good in a dribble drive. Artest will excel in the Lakers system. He will make a name for his self just being a great one on one defender, and if you say that he can not do that, you're fooling yourselves. I find it amazing that you think Duncan will do all of the same things that he used to do, even though it is obvious that he is declining, but Artest will not.

Nice pickup for the Spurs in getting Richard Jefferson although he is not a player that will put fear in the Lakers. Wallace will be a nice pickup for the Spurs and will make them possibly the second best team in the Western conference. I would really be concerned with him going to the Spurs five years ago. Today, I am not worried. Losing Bruce is another big concern for the Spurs going up against the Lakers. You don't have anyone who can guard him now but,

all of that is irrelevant. The Lakers own the Spurs and I don't care who they suit up, they will beat the Spurs. They always do!

Yeah..like nobody knows anything about the Lakers except Laker fans...they're ing Hollywood dude...I probably know as much about the Lakers as you do. And saying the Lakers have always owned the Spurs? Give me a break dude...1999, 2003, 2005, 2007...where were you?

[LakeShow]

Yeah..like nobody knows anything about the Lakers except Laker fans...they're ing Hollywood dude...I probably know as much about the Lakers as you do. And saying the Lakers have always owned the Spurs? Give me a break dude...1999, 2003, 2005, 2007...where were you?

1999 doesnt count. 2003 was a fluke. The Lakers were burnt out trying to do something no other team has ever done. Win 4 les in a row. That loss to the spurs was an aberation and the Lakers proved it by spanking the Spurs asses the next year. We were rebuilding in 05 and 07, kind of like what the Spurs should be doing now.

The Spurs act like they really think they have a chance at the le. I don't see it.

As far as the Lakers and Spurs history you only need to check the head to head match ups to see that the Lakers own the Spurs.

[Muser]

I've never understood why 1999 doesn't count?

[LakeShow]

I've never understood why 1999 doesn't count?

It wasn't a real NBA season.

I'm just ing with you guys on that one.

[DPG21920]

Ya, Artest did a great job of shutting Kobe down, lmao. Lebron, Melo and Pierce are all just as good as Kobe offensively. Kobe was supposed to be a defensive stopper and got shredded by Pierce they year before.

Ariza was average in the playoffs?

50% from the field and 48% from 3 with double digit scoring, 4 rebounds and over a steal and a half per game.

[LakeShow]

Ya, Artest did a great job of shutting Kobe down, lmao. Lebron, Melo and Pierce are all just as good as Kobe offensively. Kobe was supposed to be a defensive stopper and got shredded by Pierce they year before.

Ariza was average in the playoffs?

50% from the field and 48% from 3 with double digit scoring, 4 rebounds and over a steal and a half per game.

That's all, adequate. Like I said he had a very good finals and a good WC, but by no means was he the difference maker.

Kobe should not have been guarding Piece in the first place. Pierce is too big for him as well as Carmelo and that's why Artest would do a much better job than ariza or kobe.

The Lakers won the west in 2008 without Ariza and had a much easier time in doing so. With two players out that season the Lakers were short handed against the Celtics. 2 more bodies could have made all the difference in winning and losing. I hate to see Ariza go but Lamar is the x factor. If we lose him, I would worry.

[DenDen]

Bet Lakers fan wouldn't be on artest nuts this much, if he was to sign with the cavs.

[DenDen]

LOL... thats just it. Our future les were not dependent upon making any moves at all. We could have stood pat, and still been the favorites.

Gaining Artest for a discount literally ed the entire league for years to come, mainly, we got him really cheap. Also, now guys like James, Pierce and Carmello are forced to guard Artest... NOT KOBE!!! Even though Kobe will get his against anyone in the league, its going to much tougher for those teams to put their star player on Kobe with Artest out there beastin at that 3 position.

This team we have on the floor now will be better than our 3-peat team. By the time Kobe is done, he will have surpassed MJ in les, and the Lakers will have surpassed the Celtics in les.

Will he be beastin cause he's Ron artest, or because he's a laker? Laker homers yall are all the same, overrated on a another and a beastin on laker. I love artest on rockets, not cause of his talent, but his heart. Seriously talent wise he declined, and slow on defense not the same DPOY. He's a lakers, his bum ankle is gonna miracle heal, talent rejuvenated, and he'll be beastin

[DenDen]

Do you even watch basketball. Did you see how easily the Lakers won the le this year. The only team that put up a challenge was a Ron Artest led Rockets. Artest does everything better than Ariza.

Really was it Artest? Cause I remember Shane doing a better job on kobe and a bigger leadership ship role. I remember brooks, running circle around lalkers D. I remember role player as a whole having a no surender at ude when their best player went down. I understand you're a laker homer, i know how ya think.

[carrao45]

Really was it Artest? Cause I remember Shane doing a better job on kobe and a bigger leadership ship role. I remember brooks, running circle around lalkers D. I remember role player as a whole having a no surender at ude when their best player went down. I understand you're a laker homer, i know how ya think.

Artest will score less, but his effeciency will go way up

[DrHouse]

Artest won't score as much as he did in Houston because he won't have to.

His offensive efficiency will shoot through the roof simply because he's going to see less double teams and opposing defenses won't be able to key in on him with Kobe and Gasol on the floor.

I don't think people have fully realized just what kind of an upgrade Artest is over Ariza. The only worries I have about Artest are in getting him to buy into what the Lakers are trying to do, but seeing as how he has already given up millions of dollars to play with Kobe and co. I just don't see any serious issues cropping up.

If Bynum can regain his form pre-injury the Lakers are going to be one scary team. Artest/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum has the makings of a great defense. Offense was never a problem for LA.

[carrao45]

Artest will score less, but his effeciency will go way up

^^^^^^^^^

Artest won't score as much as he did in Houston because he won't have to.

His offensive efficiency will shoot through the roof simply because he's going to see less double teams and opposing defenses won't be able to key in on him with Kobe and Gasol on the floor.

I don't think people have fully realized just what kind of an upgrade Artest is over Ariza. The only worries I have about Artest are in getting him to buy into what the Lakers are trying to do, but seeing as how he has already given up millions of dollars to play with Kobe and co. I just don't see any serious issues cropping up.

If Bynum can regain his form pre-injury the Lakers are going to be one scary team. Artest/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum has the makings of a great defense. Offense was never a problem for LA.

Way to repeat what i said, right after i said it...