Okafor is a top 10 center DEFINITELY as well.
3rd best since Duncan is a center.
One more thing, I love how his criteria for PG's was if I'm starting a franchise today, yet Miller/Billups/Kidd/Nash are ahead of Harris. , if thats the criteria, Westbrook and Sessions should be top 10 point guards too...
Chauncey Billups > Rajon Rondo
Ray Allen > VC and Redd
Granger > Artest
Andre is a top 10 SF and Marion should be tooken off
He also said or if he just needed a PG
Well TBH, Timmy was obviously a C this year..Bonner at C?..no..
Who should have been #8 at PF in your opinion?
I agree w/ artest and nelson. I think Devin Harris is better than nelson and granger is better than artest.
All in all, pretty good list.
David West isn't low at all..
I agree w/ that.
BTW, Great sig! Does GiG stand for grace is gone?
list.
West isn't a top 10 power forward, and Chandler isn't a top 10 center.
Hakeem played center for most of his career......Sampson was the only reason he ever played PF.
But I agree that Duncan is a power forward. He's played with a center for most of his career. Last year was the first year that he for all intensive purposes was the center.
the list isn't bad but seriously andrew bynum at 3? he is so bad.
Because he is better than Dirk.
Not talking career.... just last season. Their numbers are almost identical but Gasol came up bigger and more clutch in the playoffs so I give him the nod. Clearly Dirk is the better player over their careers.... to this point.
So The Starting 5 are:
PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Dwight Howard
Their numbers weren't almost identical. You're a dumbass.
Dirk was AMAZING in the playoffs especially the Denver series, gtfo outta here w/ that . If by more clutch you mean playing on a better team and along side a top 3 player, then yes, yes Gasol was more "clutch".
FWIW this wrtier's opinion and cobbler's opinion validate MY opinion that was mocked a few days ago. Dirk is underrated.
The top TEN best centers in today's NBA league are more likely to be: Dwright, Okafor, Chandler, Camby, Z, Shaq, Damp, Kaman, Bynum, Al Jefferson. Tim Duncan is probably the 2nd best PF since he is mostly considered PF by spurs fans, while he would definitely be included in the top 3 if the center list contained him, only behind Shaq and Dwright in this area. Sheed and Dyess are more of power forwards than centers, and they can't make the top 10 at either spots anyways. Yao could have been a top 10 if he wasn't done, the positive scenario is Yao comes back to play in the league for some more years like Ratliff. While it's also very possible Yao retires in 2 years when his outrageous expires.
They look pretty close to me.... proving it is you who is the real dumbass.
It appears our 2nd option is better than your 1st.
MINS - Dirk: 36 Pau: 37 equal
FG% - Dirk: 47.9 Pau: 56.7 adv Pau
FT% - Dirk: 89 Pau: 78 adv Dirk
REB - Dirk: 8.4 Pau: 9.6 adv Pau
AST - Dirk: 2.4 Pau: 3.5 adv Pau
TO - Dirk: 1.9 Pau: 2.5 adv Dirk
ST - Dirk: 0.8 Pau: 0.5 equal
PF - Dirk: 2.2 Pau: 2.4 equal
Pts - Dirk: 25.9 Pau: 18.9 adv Pau (see FG%)
I agree, Dirk was amazing in the playoffs. However, Gasol had better numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Dirk would look a lot better too, if he was playing with Kobe..
agree to disagree cobbs, agree to disagree.
however in what universe is 19 > 26? Holding Dirk's FG % against him when it comes to scoring ability is dumb, FG% is one category... PTS is another... by that faulty logic Pau is better in the PTS category than Kobe/Wade/Lebron too... yeahhh not sure if I agree w/ that.
way I see it, the best PF in the world allowed the Mavs to win 50 and get to the 2nd round. Pau in place of Dirk to me would = 45 wins and 9th place.
Its not rocket science Ghazi. Dirk is the #1 option for the Mavs and averaged 20 shots a game to get his 26. Gasol was the #2 option and only averaged 13shots to get his 19. That's where shooting % comes in.
If Pau averaged 20 shots a game he would score 28+ a game not including the free throws that would also come on some of the 44% of the shots missed.
If you want to go strictly by points then I'll give the nod to Dirk in that catagory. My original comment was the Pau and Dirk had almost identical years and i stand by it.
However, if say Kope, Lebron, or Wade averaged 45 pts on 40 shots would you really say they were a better scorer than Dirk who averaged 35 on on 25 shots?
It just goes to show you how points per game can be deceiving. We have Kobe to show us quite often. There are many nights he gets 40 and people are awed...only to find out he took 30+ shots to do so.
Last edited by cobbler; 07-19-2009 at 03:05 AM.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
