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    The over/under for the number of pages on ST about this news is 23.
    I you want a beautiful meltdown, you need to throw that news in a new thread. There's not a lot of people who read the French NT thread.

    Now, with a new thread with a le like "Breaking News : Parker injured with French NT !!!", you could have something... epic.
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    I you want a beautiful meltdown, you need to threw that news in a new thread. There's not a lot of people who read the French NT thread.

    Now, with a new thread with a le like "Breaking News : Parker injured with French NT !!!", you could have something... epic.
    I didn't want to put the news in a specific thread to avoid the traditional meltdown but I'm sure someone else will create this thread soon.

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    Well what do you expect? Most people seem to think TP is very out of shape and now he is trying to play with his NT? That is not smart. He should have been keeping in shape knowing he was going to be playing.

    No one minds him playing (or at least I do not) but be smart. He is an elite athlete and he knows that you cannot go from 0 to NT without risking injury.

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    that is not good... hopefully TP bounces back with no physical issues to lead the team to the Eurocup

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    Damn it Tony, I read that he was out of shape but when I saw only 12 mins i let out a sigh of relief. But damn it...

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    I you want a beautiful meltdown, you need to threw that news in a new thread. There's not a lot of people who read the French NT thread.

    Now, with a new thread with a le like "Breaking News : Parker injured with French NT !!!", you could have something... epic.
    This is so true

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    So now Parker rests and comes back for NT play even more out of shape. Sweet.

    in NT play. Start kissing all that money you sank to re-arm the Spurs goodbye Holt.

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    So now Parker rests and comes back for NT play even more out of shape. Sweet.

    in NT play. Start kissing all that money you sank to re-arm the Spurs goodbye Holt.
    Slow your roll and look at the big pic. He is out of shape and that is not smart, but the injury was minor and it is too early to say the season is over. He just has to be smart and not rush anything. He needs to work to get back into shape before trying to compete at a high level.

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    Some guys are prone to injury and some guys (due in part to body type) are not.

    TP seems like the latter so I wouldn't be too worried.

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    Slow your roll and look at the big pic. He is out of shape and that is not smart, but the injury was minor and it is too early to say the season is over. He just has to be smart and not rush anything. He needs to work to get back into shape before trying to compete at a high level.
    Screw that. I've always been against NT play including the US. Manu screwed the Spurs over with a stress injury, a ulative injury that almost certainly wouldn't have happened with summer's rest. Now Parker continues to up his ankle with ulative, repe ive injuries, each one making the next one a little easier to occur.

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    No one minds him playing (or at least I do not) but be smart. He is an elite athlete and he knows that you cannot go from 0 to NT without risking injury.
    You're fast to draw some conclusions while you haven't even seen how the injury has happened.

    Parker was hit in the tigh by an Austrian player and twist his ankle during the same play. He doesn't look like an injury related with not being in shape.

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    Now Parker continues to up his ankle with ulative, repe ive injuries, each one making the next one a little easier to occur.
    TP hurt his right ankle yesterday. He has had troubles with his left ankle.

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    You're fast to draw some conclusions while you haven't even seen how the injury has happened.

    Parker was hit in the tigh by an Austrian player and twist his ankle during the same play. He doesn't look like an injury related with not being in shape.
    Is he in top shape? I do not care how the injury happened. If you are not in good shape you are susceptible to injury. This is not rocket science. When you are in shape, your balance and ability to avoid injury is much better. When you are out of shape, you can get hit then roll your ankle because your legs are too weak to bounce off and your balance is poor.

    This is widely known. My beef is not so much with the current injury as it is with a few saying he looks in very bad shape. That can lead to injuries and he should work himself back in slowly and monitor his minor injuries.
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    I don't care if it is serious, just a bad sign. It is never smart to play with the NT when you are completely out of shape. That is when injuries happen. Hopefully he is smart.
    Well what do you expect? Most people seem to think TP is very out of shape and now he is trying to play with his NT? That is not smart. He should have been keeping in shape knowing he was going to be playing.

    No one minds him playing (or at least I do not) but be smart. He is an elite athlete and he knows that you cannot go from 0 to NT without risking injury.
    Slow your roll and look at the big pic. He is out of shape and that is not smart, but the injury was minor and it is too early to say the season is over. He just has to be smart and not rush anything. He needs to work to get back into shape before trying to compete at a high level.
    You're fast to draw some conclusions while you haven't even seen how the injury has happened.

    Parker was hit in the tigh by an Austrian player and twist his ankle during the same play. He doesn't look like an injury related with not being in shape.
    Looks like you were the one drawing conclusions because you feel defensive over the issue.

    No where did I say that his fitness was the direct cause of the injury. I was responding to a few saying he looked out of shape and that is when injuries CAN happen.

    I never said he was out of shape and it caused him to roll his ankle. He needs to be careful and smart and work himself slowly in. That is all. You were jumping to conclusions.

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    Game 2:
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    Belgium 44

    De Colo 6 points in 23min.

    Stats: http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches.../50nSFhNmrsU5A
    Pictures: http://www.sigbasket.fr/edf2009/samedi-match2/

    These are easy wins against bad teams. The FT shooting is very Spurs like ( 9/21 in the first game, 14/27 in the second one).

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    Is De Colo running point for this last game with TP out? Or does he play SG only for the NT?

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    Is De Colo running point for this last game with TP out? Or does he play SG only for the NT?
    He played PG in this game.

    When everybody is healthy, he only plays SG. TP is the starting PG and Joseph Gomis is the backup PG.

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    He played PG in this game.

    When everybody is healthy, he only plays SG. TP is the starting PG and Joseph Gomis is the backup PG.
    I know it was not the best compe ion, but how does he do at running the point? Is he better than Gomis at the PG position?

    I know from some comments, he said he is transitioning back to a PG for his club.

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    is he in top shape? I do not care how the injury happened. If you are not in good shape you are susceptible to injury. This is not rocket science. When you are in shape, your balance and ability to avoid injury is much better. When you are out of shape, you can get hit then roll your ankle because your legs are too weak to bounce off and your balance is poor.

    This is widely known. My beef is not so much with the current injury as it is with a few saying he looks in very bad shape. That can lead to injuries and he should work himself back in slowly and monitor his minor injuries.
    + 10

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    [quote=Bruno;3588363]Game 2:
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    De Colo 6 points in 23min.

    ... and 10 assists!

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    [QUOTE=Pauleta14;3588594]
    Game 2:
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    Belgium 44

    De Colo 6 points in 23min.

    ... and 10 assists!
    Just passing the ball to a teammate against an outmanned team is likely to count as an assist. The 6 points in 23 minutes seems more significant.

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    Looks like you were the one drawing conclusions because you feel defensive over the issue.

    No where did I say that his fitness was the direct cause of the injury. I was responding to a few saying he looked out of shape and that is when injuries CAN happen.

    I never said he was out of shape and it caused him to roll his ankle. He needs to be careful and smart and work himself slowly in. That is all. You were jumping to conclusions.
    Well I don't know why you would have expected him to be in basketball shape. Though he obviously works out regularly in the summer, he can't be in basketball shape (have his wind, legs, etc) unless he plays basketball. And after the season ends, most of the players are told to take a couple months off of basketball. And then midsummer they start working themselves back into basketball shape through scrimmages, team play, etc.

    Anyway, I don't think getting kneed in the thigh has to do with being in shape or not. Remember the 2006 in the playoffs when he got kneed in the thigh very badly? He definitely was in shape then and it didn't stop the issue.

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    pop told tp and duncan not to do anything this summer
    I am not thrilled tp is over there
    you get in basketball shape by playing only
    for the ones that want him to be in basketball shape he has to play to get in shape

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    Well I don't know why you would have expected him to be in basketball shape. Though he obviously works out regularly in the summer, he can't be in basketball shape (have his wind, legs, etc) unless he plays basketball. And after the season ends, most of the players are told to take a couple months off of basketball. And then midsummer they start working themselves back into basketball shape through scrimmages, team play, etc.

    Anyway, I don't think getting kneed in the thigh has to do with being in shape or not. Remember the 2006 in the playoffs when he got kneed in the thigh very badly? He definitely was in shape then and it didn't stop the issue.
    I don't expect him to be in game shape. I expect him to be in decent shape or to have started training a little early knowing that he would be playing for his NT. I am just going off of what people say, that he looks very out of shape.

    Many players in the off season still run and play pick up basketball with other pros. I did not say that "getting kneed was due to him being out of shape". He also sprained his ankle, so it was not him just getting kneed. Once again, I said the injury did not bother me, it was the reports of him looking very out of shape that can lead to more serious injuries. That is how injuries happen. I said I want him to ease himself into it. I do not want him to go from very out of shape to trying to help the NT qualify just like that. I do not know how this particular injury happened or if him rolling his ankle after he got kneed had to do with him being un fit. Just now that the odds increase of other injuries if he is 1) out of shape 2)a little banged up 3) trying to compete at a high level.

    Most people that are going to play for the NT start training a little earlier to start to get in shape. They know it is not smart to do very little, then try and play at a high level. Not only does it take a while to get back into shape, but you run the risk of getting injured in practice/games.

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