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What a stupid ing retort.
But we've come to expect no less from you.
Bonner gave us nothing that we needed when it counted. Either he gets 10-15 minutes tops or he gets the boot. No way in does he start on this squad in it's current incarnation.
So what are the limitations/restrictions for our Bonner following here? What kind of trade is a good one for Bonner?
What a stupid ing retort.
But we've come to expect no less from you.
Bonner gave us nothing that we needed when it counted. Either he gets 10-15 minutes tops or he gets the boot. No way in does he start on this squad in it's current incarnation.
bring rasho back!!!
Looking in the mirror has a way of bringing out the truth. But that's quite alright. If telling others that they're uneducated makes you feel any more enlightened, then by all means, continue to feed your delusion.
Given your prior record of dip comments and dimwitted logic one couldn't help but stop by and watch the brilliant firework display of you self-owning once again.
Because 1 playoff series means anything. His numbers for the regular season mean much more and indicate he would have significant value as a bench big for when Haislip bust out like he did last time.
Say goodbye to Splitter. Or are you expecting the Spurs to add playroll next year. Finely and Bonner represent 7 million in expiring contracts that could be used to help relieve the owners should the tax fall by the projected amount. Therefore to bring Splitter over (probably using part of the MLE) the Spurs need to dump cap or the owners will be hit with a huge tax bill. Finely and Bonner will produce enough in the limited roles they will have and help the team for the future. Nocioni is under contract for 3 years and would not play long enough to be worth it as his minutes would be worth 7 million, especially sense Mason would be a better than this career 38% 3 point shot who would be stuck on the bench behind Manu and Jefferson.
A player playing bad in one 5 game series OBVIOUSLY shows that player sucks and could NEVER contribute to a championship role. REGARDLESS of any other factors or the fact that everyone but Tony was a disappointment in that series. Of course those of us dumbass in Texas should just bow to your magnificent wisdom.
I think I should have made myself clearer. I think Bonner and Finely are ok for role players and would normally careless about whether we trade them or not.
I know we would still have the MLE but my main point was this. Mason, Finely, and Bonner are the expendable expiring contracts. They add up to 10 million. If we let them expire then the FO would be able to use that 10 million to cover bringing Splitter over, signing our draft picks, maybe getting another part, and most importantly resigning Manu. If we trade Bonner and Finely and take a long term contract back than we have Mason's 3 or so million to do all of this. I am glad the the FO was allowed to go so far above the cap, but i don't want to see Holt and the other owners forced to pay another additional 5-6 million in tax just so we can overpay a backup. No backup is worth 7 million a year and the Spurs really (as of right now) have no obvious weakness.
I have faith in the FO but the only way they could maneuver next year would to remake a Jefferson like trade, with us being the ones to dump talent. IMO its better to keep 2 decent players as role players for a year and keep flexability than lost that for a backup.
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Be smarter than that
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It doesn't really matter what happens to Bonner or Finley, because this time next year they won't be Spurs. I am willing to put up with them for another season if the right deal doesn't come along for a trade. They can be valuable in certain "spot" situations, but the only way they should start is if we have injuries. I do believe that Bonner and Finley still have something to contribute to the team, but they can't be asked to do more than what they are capable of.
Spurstrodamus = SpurSupremacist.
Just letting you know in case you are attempting some sort of logic based converstation with him.
Anyone else?
what kind is a good one for Manu?
Well, if you would like to discuss that then you can start a thread about it. In the meantime, you could try answering my question.
I don't want to talk about trading Bonner in the Official Don't Trade Bonner thread.
I'm fairly sure there's a thread for trading bonner. You can join in that one or make your own if you want to discuss that.
So by supporting this thread I am assuming you are deeming him untouchable?
Bonner in 15 minutes a night isn't bad. during the regular season he was on a tear. He, like Mason and even Finley yes, we're put in positions where they could not succeed. Did he suck it up? Yeah, he did. No denyin' it. But the way most of the posters here on him, after a remarkable season, is just unreal.
I would rather have him and Finley traded for a great Defensive Wingman than stay on the Roster, but if he ends up staying on the Roster, he should not ing start. He can come off the Bench.
We didn't win 3 Championships in 5 years by having a Center who can only grab 4 rebounds a Game.
But is 15 minutes a night possible with 7 bigs on the roster?
I think the biggest thing that is being missed here is that Bonner is a zero impact player at this point. Yes, he was good last year and won us a lot of games during the regular season with his great 3pt shooting. This year is a much different story. Can he still come off the bench and drain a few threes? Sure he can. Will he be the difference in 48 wins or 58 wins? Probably not...as we have added shooting in RJ and McDyess that will more than take care of whatever Bonner might bring to the table.
We are going to have to move a big man...there is no debating that. Of all the bigs under contract, Bonner has the largest expiring deal. If you combine that with what I said about him above it really becomes a no-brainer that he is the one that should be moved if a deal for a defensive minded wing hits the table.
If you feel like you want Bonner around just because you like him then just say so. But facts are facts...from a basketball standpoint there is not much he can do to help this team win a le.
bonner.
Nothing good has, or ever will come from him.
If the SPurs keep Bonner at least they will have his contract coming off the books. They need to keep their expiring contracts to give them some wiggle room next year.
give him the boot!...w/ theo in we need someone who is clutch.... yes i know bonner made his WIDE OPEN 3 during reg season, but key words WIDE OPEN. anybody will get those same looks and shoot at that percentage. WE NEED SOME1 CLUTCH. WHO HAS THAT KILLER INSTINCT. i would be all for NOCIONI. he has that argentinian fire that gets stronger with the crowd. imagine the killer instincts of gino and nocioni w a best like blair. GAME OVER.
Bonner was quite good during the regular season but was damn bad during the playoffs.
There are two ways of anything it:
- Mavs didn't let shooters open in this serie because Spurs have only one great player. With an healthy Duncan and the addition of Manu and RJ, Bonner will be more open and will be more useful. He has shown during the regular season that he was one of the best shooting big in the NBA and not a that bad defender.
- Bonner is a choker. Never clutch, struggled against most of the big teams in the regular season and ugly in the playoffs. He will never been able to help a contender because of that.
Having a big able to shoot 3's is damn interesting. So if Spurs think Bonner doesn't have "it", a trade for a shooting big wouldn't be a bad idea. I'm not sold on Haislip ability to be a reliable NBA 3 point shooter.
this thread. Bonner, I'm okay with -- just on another team.
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