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  1. #51
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Phillip, don't you think Dampier will start and Gooden will come off the bench? They'll need Gooden's offensive capabilities in the second unit more than the first, won't they?

    Do you think Cuban would actually insist that Dampier didn't average 30 minutes even if it hurt the team short term so that his contract expires (assume Dampier plays well enough to warrant 30 minutes or more average)?
    Personally, I think it just depends on the team they are facing, in terms of whether Damp (traditional), Gooden (athletic), or Dirk (small-ball) will start at center.

    Dampier would never average 30 minutes unless he stepped it up and started averaging 15 and 12. Not happening.

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    I still think we should resign Hollins. He showed a little bit of defensive intensity that we are severely lacking right now. Sign that kid and sit him on the bench while the trainers work with him to bulk his ass up.
    Exactly, with his athleticism and size, dude has the potential to become a star-level defender like Biedrins, or probably even a dominant center like Bynum if dude lifts up more weight. Then dude will also wipe out some criticisms against the sign of Diop in last summer.

  3. #53
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    OK move for Dallas, but yet another all-offense, no-defense move. Mavs are going to be scoring 100+ppg, but probably giving up 100+ppg as well.

  4. #54
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    A Tim Thomas signing would make me hate the Gooden signing....one lazy/low BBIQ guy is enough for one team but two is overboard

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    "He is a really good 3-point shooter that can spread the floor for us and will immediately make us a better 3-point shooting team," Mavs owner Mark Cuban said via e-mail. "Plus, he is a far better 1-on-1 post defender than he gets credit for. His defensive points per possession in the post the last couple years has been very good. His length and experience really pay off."

  6. #56
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    are u doubting the man who identified the second best player in the nba as j.kidd?

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    Here is why I don't like this deal, even for the minimum and when he's not expected to play heavy minutes: What is the effing point of bringing in a heartless locker room cancer when at best he'll...not be an active liability?

    Seems like low risk, low reward, so why even bother with him? It just seems like he can still find a way to overall be a demerit and hurt your team, even if they can jettison him quickly like they did with Mr. Jackie Christie.
    I actually agree with Findog on something.

    Here's what I see: Dallas seems to be collecting lazy dumbasses who never reached their potential, or even came close. Gooden and Thomas both qualify. Both of them are damn near useless without the ball in their hands. At least Gooden is a good rebounder on one end: offense.

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    Here is why I don't like this deal, even for the minimum and when he's not expected to play heavy minutes: What is the effing point of bringing in a heartless locker room cancer when at best he'll...not be an active liability?

    Seems like low risk, low reward, so why even bother with him? It just seems like he can still find a way to overall be a demerit and hurt your team, even if they can jettison him quickly like they did with Mr. Jackie Christie.
    When has Tim Thomas created locker room problems? Sure, he plays basketball like he'd rather be playing cribbage with his grandma, but I don't recall him ever being a problem on a team. Maybe it's cuz he doesn't care enough to create a problem, but still....locker room cancer is about the most inaccurate way to describe him.

    At worst, he never gets off the bench all year. At best, he gives us what Keith Van Horn gave us in 06.....nothing great, nothing all that good, but ultimately a decent backup for Dirk who can occasionally light it up from the 3. You can scoff KVH's contributions all you, but have we ever found a truly capable backup for Dirk since?

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    Here is what the current rotation looks like compared to last year...

    PG- Kidd, Barea
    SG- Howard, Terry
    SF- Marion, Ross
    PF- Nowitzki, Thomas
    C - Gooden, Dampier

    last year...

    PG- Kidd, Barea
    SG- Wright, Terry
    SF- Howard, Singleton
    PF- Nowitzki, Bass
    C - Dampier, Hollins

    Mavs lost: Bass, Wright, Singleton, and Hollins.
    Mavs gained: Marion, Gooden, Thomas, and Ross.

    Marion > Singleton

    Ross = Wright (although its potentially an upgrade, as Ross is a of a defender and supposedly has a of a 3pt shot nowadays)

    Gooden > Bass

    Thomas > Hollins

    Mavs have definitely upgraded so far. Let's see what their next move consists of.
    lol Mavericks.

  10. #60
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    lol Mavericks.
    lol utsa

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    oh yeah, and here's the real reason Cuban wanted Tim Thomas on the Mavs.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...ory?id=1787142

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    Here is what the current rotation looks like compared to last year...

    PG- Kidd, Barea
    SG- Howard, Terry
    SF- Marion, Ross
    PF- Nowitzki, Thomas
    C - Gooden, Dampier

    last year...

    PG- Kidd, Barea
    SG- Wright, Terry
    SF- Howard, Singleton
    PF- Nowitzki, Bass
    C - Dampier, Hollins

    Mavs lost: Bass, Wright, Singleton, and Hollins.
    Mavs gained: Marion, Gooden, Thomas, and Ross.

    Marion > Singleton

    Ross = Wright (although its potentially an upgrade, as Ross is a of a defender and supposedly has a of a 3pt shot nowadays)

    Gooden > Bass

    Thomas > Hollins

    Mavs have definitely upgraded so far. Let's see what their next move consists of.
    Totally agree with you. I think Mavs are in the same level with Spurs and Lakers in the West.

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    oh yeah, and here's the real reason Cuban wanted Tim Thomas on the Mavs.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...ory?id=1787142
    Aha.

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    I don't really see the point in signing Tim Thomas for the Mavs, particularly after the signing of The Big Drizzle. Maybe they want a perimeter orientated PF to be a homeless mans Dirk when Dirk is on the bench? Thomas doesn't really play like Dirk at all though.

    Weird move, but doesn't really matter either way, he shouldn't be replied upon and isn't going to be the difference in winning a playoff series or losing one . I still like what Dallas have done this offseason though, they should be much improved

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    Mavs biggest problem in the playoffs was the inability to score when the bench was in the game...other than JET and Bass and at times Barea the rest of the guys were allergic to scoring buckets. Like its been said its not like TT is the 7th or 8th man off the bench, more like 10th/11th. If Gooden gets hurt he can step in and play those minutes for a short span of games.

    Plus he signed for the Vet Min which means the Mavs didnt cut into the MLE or waste the LLE. The more I think about this move the more I've come to understand it

    My only problem is can JKidd and Dirk make up for the lack of BBIQ's of J-ho, Gooden and Thomas

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Mavs biggest problem in the playoffs was the inability to score when the bench was in the game...other than JET and Bass and at times Barea the rest of the guys were allergic to scoring buckets. Like its been said its not like TT is the 7th or 8th man off the bench, more like 10th/11th. If Gooden gets hurt he can step in and play those minutes for a short span of games.

    Plus he signed for the Vet Min which means the Mavs didnt cut into the MLE or waste the LLE. The more I think about this move the more I've come to understand it

    My only problem is can JKidd and Dirk make up for the lack of BBIQ's of J-ho, Gooden and Thomas
    I've never thought that Gooden and Thomas have bad IQ. They are just lazy at times.

    Keep in mind how much Kidd improves his team's IQ though... before having Kidd, they were one of the lowest IQ teams around... and by the end of last year, they were definitely one of the higher IQ teams in the league, and even Josh Howard was back to making smart desicions, and Terry wasn't throwing nearly as many bad passes as he used to. Barea was playing pretty smart and controlled.

    I think they will be fine in terms of IQ.

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    I don't think scoring is going to be that much of an issue. It WILL feel good to see a guy like Gooden that can actually make a hook shot in the lane. I think the biggest question is who is going to play defense?

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    Does it really matter who's even on the Mavs roster when it comes to playing the Spurs? It could be 5 mongoloid children with no arms and they'd still find a way to beat them.

    lol

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    Does it really matter who's even on the Mavs roster when it comes to playing the Spurs? It could be 5 mongoloid children with no arms and they'd still find a way to beat them.

    lol
    haha...true dat. Watch Marion turn into a Spurs killer now that he's wearing the blue and green.

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    They should give Johnathan Bender a shot at the team before Tim Thomas

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    haha...true dat. Watch Marion turn into a Spurs killer now that he's wearing the blue and green.
    I am fully expecting that to happen.

    Do you have any idea how frustrating it is watching Josh Howard shoot like Larry Bird against the Spurs and then shooting like Josh Howard against most others teams?

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    haha...true dat. Watch Marion turn into a Spurs killer now that he's wearing the blue and green.
    I would actually expect Gooden to turn into that. Marion simply curls up into a fetal position when he sees the Spurs.

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    Dallas Mavericks are making a career out of signing other people's leftovers.

    Gooden has potential, but doesn't do anything to make the Mavs less soft defensively. But Tim Thomas? LOL. Dude was washed up about 5 years ago.

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    Marion simply curls up into a fetal position when he sees the Spurs.
    & that Predrag fellow curls him as well.

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    Dallas Mavericks are making a career out of signing other people's leftovers.

    Gooden has potential, but doesn't do anything to make the Mavs less soft defensively. But Tim Thomas? LOL. Dude was washed up about 5 years ago.
    Michael FInley, Antonio McDyess, Nick Van Exel, Brent Barry, Robert Horry, and Theo Ratliff would like to disagree with you

    just to name a few

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