Spurs.com: Tony Parker Injury Update

[raspsa]

Tony Parker à suivi des soins pendant son vol pour San Antonio grâce à la présence de l'ostéopathe de l'Equipe de France, Fabrice Gautier qui l'accompagnait (Gautier / FFBB)

I didn't realize Tony is flatfooted..
Lets all be gald its just the ankle and a thigh bruise and the knee idn't take a hit.. Spurs have enough knee concerns.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Sounds like good news to me. He will get about three weeks off until he has to play again. And he will *gasp* only miss the games he was likely to miss even if he stayed in France. So this trip back to San Antonio won't have any affect other than the Spurs building trust that Parker can balance his Spurs dedication with his NT dedication.

As long as France can hang within a dozen points of Italy and beat Finland, I'd say France should have a pretty good chance of advancing to the next round.

Even with their injuries Italy's current roster is 8 players deep. France will have a huge challenge trying to qualify now.

[ducks]

so it was ok for manu to play last year because spurs did not make big moves and pay 10 million in tax?

[gtownspur]

this thread has mookie bait written all over it.

[Brazil]

Flying first class... not that tiring my friend... specially in long haul flights...

Even in first class it's not a carabian cruise with swimming pool and hot chicks.

The point is 22 hours, jet lag, drama, everybody pissed off for NOTHING

[Brazil]

There is a difference between FIBA and the olympics. Manu did the right thing and only played for the Olympic team and let the ARG team get an olympic slot without him. TP should do the same.

France cannot afford that

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs owners and fanbase would be pissed, this is the only time in franchise history holt and his partners are spending big and going all in on the flop wanting to win this championship.

i dont want another setback like the crap ginoboli has done to himself in NT duties b4 the nba regular season gets away....we dont want to go through that again. We cant afford to.

[Riverwalkman]

I seriously doubt that many bad words were exchanged and I seriously doubt that the Parker will have any bad feelings toward the Spurs. It's probably a non-issue at this point from Parker's point of view.

French Spurs fan maybe too upset coz there's too much negtive words from French press. And I can comprehend that they ought to be more sensitive to their NT players.

[Riverwalkman]

http://www.sport365.fr/basket-hand-v...-colere-.shtml

Early Friday morning, Parker flew to the United States to measure the evolution of his sprained ankle with the staff of the Spurs. A blow to the Blues who do not know when their leader will be back. Explanations with the coach, Vincent Collet, and general manager, Patrick Beesley.

The unlikely scenario

Patrick Beesley: "At half-time, Tony received a call from the chairman of Spurs who told him:" Your plane is at 9:25 tomorrow towards Houston. For ease, he then proposed to overlook the first game in Italy to try to calm things. Tony has tried but the president has recalled saying: "Depart 9:25, the ticket is on your mobile. Returning to the hotel, we decided to give in to pressure and let him go with Fabrice Gauthier, osteopath of the French team not to lose time in the reconstruction process. Only about starting a course, been raised, we do not know anything about a possible return. The pressure was rising for several days but he did not expect that. "

http://www.sport365.fr/basket-hand-v...l-Italie.shtml

The San Antonio Spurs have announced that their french leader Tony Parker was allowed to return France next week, but only after the capital of Blue match in Italy on Wednesday. Meanwhile, he continues to heal his ankle.

[kace]

Where did you see any bellyaching or diva acting from Parker? You are going off about something reported third hand that he was upset at the phone call.

maybe your and Timvp behaviour about this story isn't stranger to this kind of stupid reaction about tp.

you say completely false things about tp first injury (finger). facts are facts and timvp is just lying about that.

and now, we're going into the whole "french press is lying" stupid and disrespecting thing.

the fact is the french doctors were right, as anyone with half a brain should have understood, and that all this mess was done for nothing.

i read some of Timvp arguments and i just find it hilarious. bad faith at full strenght.

now we have the proof that the french medical staff was right and cautious, on the contrary of what timvp said, and still he keeps arguing.

tomorrow, we will have the proof that TP was really upset (angry ?) about the spurs order to come back (which isn't a so big deal anyway), and still you will be arguing that it was "french press invention" or "third hand info".

Spurs medical staff was sure impressive with the Mahinmi situation.

[JPB]

Or maybe you have just been duped by the French press into thinking that it's all that. I seriously doubt that many bad words were exchanged and I seriously doubt that the Parker will have any bad feelings toward the Spurs. It's probably a non-issue at this point from Parker's point of view. Was he upset at the initial call? Sure. But he knows it's a business. He knows they are protecting him as a valuable asset. And he has way too much respect for Pop/RC/Holt for this to be grudge issue. And it's mutual.

I've never heard of Holt calling and ordering players around. If TP got the request initially by text message, I'm going to say it was RC. Pop doesn't text message and I don't think Holt does either.

Has TP actually said Holt or has he just said "the Spurs" and that was assumed to be Holt?

It's been reported by several reliable sources and I've heard the french GM on a sport radio show explaining what he witnessed :

He was really really surprised by the tone of the discussion between TP and Holt and by the hard words used by Peter. Tony was really pissed too.

Story is Pop asked TP to come back and Tony kind of refused. Then Holt called him and ordered him to take the first plane.

I think everybody's smart enough to put that beyond them but there was real tension there.

[23LeBronJames23]

They have 3 other NBA players that can risk getting hurt.

timmy and manu?

[Capt Bringdown]

My suggestion to Bruno; start up Spurstalk.fr and leave us NBA fans to discuss winning actual championships.

Actually, different opinions/info sources are what makes things interesting. My suggestion to you; go over to the other forum if you want to play the follow-the-leader groupthink game.

[sonic21]

the spurs overreacted for sure but i can understand them. I think tony was pissed because he thought the spurs would not allow him to play the remaining games. Now we'll see if the french NT has enough chemistry to be compe ive wednesday against italy.

[Alain]

Just to clear things up: am I right to think that Tony could have simply ignore spurs order to come back? And then, what would have been the consequences? Is he allowed to do whatever he wants during his vacation or not?

[johnnyblues]

parker plays for france because he knows he'd never get any pt with usa

Parker plays for France because he's French. Idiot.

[temujin]

France will need th best of Parker to get by Italy.
And they won't get any next eek.

France is weak in the backcourt and inside, and has a plethora of selfish perimeter players.
They also have a terrible coach.

Italy, as I watched last night, is finally getting a decent team. A couple of bigs are coming on strong, they found a goop PG. The weak point is the no-to-little defense of the two rich NBA players.
Bargnani is obviously hopeless, but Belo has shown hints that he might seriously come to play.

There is more than a chance that Mr. Parker will be back on vacation in a couple of weeks.

[temujin]

Just to clear things up: am I right to think that Tony could have simply ignore spurs order to come back? And then, what would have been the consequences? Is he allowed to do whatever he wants during his vacation or not?

If my employee gets injured while on vacation, he keeps the job.
If he/she gets injured while playing for another organization in an irrelevant game while I am paying him/her, he gets fired immediately.

[sonic21]

Italy, as I watched last night, is finally getting a decent team. A couple of bigs are coming on strong, they found a goop PG. The weak point is the no-to-little defense of the two rich NBA players.
Bargnani is obviously hopeless, but Belo has shown hints that he might seriously come to play.

was it this game?

[Riverwalkman]

If my employee gets injured while on vacation, he keeps the job.
If he/she gets injured while playing for another organization in an irrelevant game while I am paying him/her, he gets fired immediately.

Nice point.

[sonic21]

even without tony, France can beat Italy, they have no defense and the french team offense is inconsistent without tony. We just have to hope some players (mainly diaw who was really average during the friendly games) to show up offensively.

[Bruno]

But you throw around bull like "RC is kissing TP's ass" and "Parker's relationship with the Spurs is damaged." You act like he is some sort of free agent that they signed last year and they are trying to stay within his good graces...and RC is some bumbling GM scared of losing his star. I stand by what I said...get rid of your blind nationalism and see things for how they really are.

Throwing around BS ?

French NT GM said himself that Parker was hurt by what Holt said to him. Parker said himself that he regretted what happened.
Who should I believe: someone that talked to Parker and Parker or you who is talking from your ass?

And how many times Spurs put a quote from RC, Pop or someone else in their official press release? Maybe 1% of them are with a quote...
Like it or not but the fact that Spurs put a quote form RC to say thank you to TP in their official news means something.

You're free to "stand by what you said", I will go with the interpretation that is based on reliable reports. Stay in your fairy tail world, I'm in the real one where all things point in the direction that there is/was a quarrel between Spurs and Parker.

[Macca76]

Indeed.

Bruno, someone once known as a reliable source of pertinent international info is now starting to sound like the French version of Peter Vescey.

This whole 'story' is going to disappear faster than Matt Bonner in a playoff game. Four months from now, nobody hear will be talking about the French NT except Bruno who'll be rumaging through RC Buford's garbage looking for the next 'scoop'.

My suggestion to Bruno; start up Spurstalk.fr and leave us NBA fans to discuss winning actual championships.

Yeah right, more than 20 000 views for the 4 threads about the subject but still no one cares. If you're not interested, don't read it and don't answer. The subject is actually very interesting even if non french fans seem to refuse to see the point of view of french spurs fans who are writing on this forum (myself included).

I think we can safely say that Bruno is a respected poster on this forum and still very few posters try to understand why he is /we are upset by this decision.

I won't add something more about what my fellow french posters had said except that there is obviously a conflict of interests between spurs organization (fans included) and french NT (spurs fans included). Unless spurs fans on this board try to understand and respect the NT spirit, in a general way, for every sport and every country (only sport, no money/business involved, which is, in my opinion the summit of high level sport) there is no point to start an argument. Some posters do and some don't.

Obviously, Walton Buys Off Me, you don't. Bruno has asked if a french NT thread could interest someone, and as TP and De Colo were involved, a lot of people were interested. Now that we're in the middle of it, your kind of post is, to say the least, worthless.

[Slippy]

Glad to see the confirmation that tony's injury is nothing serious. Spurs took the extra cautious approach and Tony gets back to playing for France in a week. Looks to me like the Spurs appreciate the way Tony handled it like a pro even if he didn't agree. Tony's always showen a maturity and level headedness for guy with huge fame. He knows the spurs have his best interests more-so after the history with Manu. Can't see him making it a bigger issue.

[benefactor]

Throwing around BS ?

French NT GM said himself that Parker was hurt by what Holt said to him. Parker said himself that he regretted what happened.
Who should I believe: someone that talked to Parker and Parker or you who is talking from your ass?

He might have been upset...I have already said that. What you keep ignoring is that there were probably other events that happened after that point. You act like Parker is some sort of child and will continue to pout about this...when the reality is that these are grown men that have known each other for a very long time. People like that sit down, discuss things and come to an understanding.

And how many times Spurs put a quote from RC, Pop or someone else in their official press release? Maybe 1% of them are with a quote...
Like it or not but the fact that Spurs put a quote form RC to say thank you to TP in their official news means something.

It does means something. It means that they understand where Parker is coming from and they respect him. They want him to know that they are concerned about the things that he feels are important. Families who care about each other do things like this. I guess where you are from families have to kiss each others ass to keep the other party happy.

You're free to "stand by what you said", I will go with the interpretation that is based on reliable reports. Stay in your fairy tail world, I'm in the real one where all things point in the direction that there is/was a quarrel between Spurs and Parker.

There may have been a quarrel for a short moment, but I seriously doubt that one conversation between Holt and Parker created some sort of permanent rift. If you step back and consider all the cir stances and assume Parker is a rational, mature adult, then its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that they talked it out like adults and everything is now water under the bridge.