Fedor signs with StrikeForce

[LEONARD]

LOL...wow...

and Fedor haters will always hate unless he's in the UFC...and even then, they'd still continue to find something to complain about...

[oligarchy]

wow?

How does that article make sense? If you think it's simply hating, you are mentally re ed. If you believe SF has the same compe ion as UFC, you are again, mentally re ed. He doesn't have to be in the UFC, but until he is, he isn't relevant.

It's like comparing CBA to the NBA or International to the NBA. Sure there may be some talent there, but it's NOT the same. He's just making stupid demands so he doesn't look like "bad" because he doesn't want to sign. Then he takes less money to fight lesser compe ion.

[dbreiden83080]

It's like comparing CBA to the NBA or International to the NBA. Sure there may be some talent there, but it's NOT the same. He's just making stupid demands so he doesn't look like "bad" because he doesn't want to sign.

[LEONARD]

wow?

How does that article make sense? If you think it's simply hating, you are mentally re ed. If you believe SF has the same compe ion as UFC, you are again, mentally re ed. He doesn't have to be in the UFC, but until he is, he isn't relevant.

It's like comparing CBA to the NBA or International to the NBA. Sure there may be some talent there, but it's NOT the same. He's just making stupid demands so he doesn't look like "bad" because he doesn't want to sign. Then he takes less money to fight lesser compe ion.

Yes...Wow, as in you've mentioned Fedor vs Cyborg in 2 threads already. Talk about minimizing the SF HW division...you're out-doing Dana who just said they're "nobodies"...

I haven't said anywhere that SF has the "same compe ion" as the UFC. They clearly have less high level fighters, but they have enough guys for a 1 year contract and 3 fights. That's my point...

How do you know he took less money? How much will he make from the M-1 co-promotion? I don't think anybody knows do they? How much of that "$30M over 6 fights" was guaranteed? There is no way to know what he would've made in the UFC (depends how his fights went, PPV sales, etc) and there is no way to know how much he'll make from SF...

Fedor has never been relevant because he's never been in the UFC...thanks, good to know...

[oligarchy]

Yes...Wow, as in you've mentioned Fedor vs Cyborg in 2 threads already. Talk about minimizing the SF HW division...you're out-doing Dana who just said they're "nobodies"...

I haven't said anywhere that SF has the "same compe ion" as the UFC. They clearly have less high level fighters, but they have enough guys for a 1 year contract and 3 fights. That's my point...

How do you know he took less money? How much will he make from the M-1 co-promotion? I don't think anybody knows do they? How much of that "$30M over 6 fights" was guaranteed? There is no way to know what he would've made in the UFC (depends how his fights went, PPV sales, etc) and there is no way to know how much he'll make from SF...

Fedor has never been relevant because he's never been in the UFC...thanks, good to know...

Yes. Fedor has always been relevant. As his pay-per-view sales and top-flight compe ion has pointed too. Excellent use of sarcasm to point to stupidity. You can't be the best when people don't know how you are and you aren't playing on the biggest stage. Whether you like it or not, it's how things work. Sorry.

LOL. Ok.. I believe that SF is going to make him more money with the co-promotion. They share profits and LOSSES. His first show on Showtime should pull in millions with all that.. oh, or the next to 2 of this three fight deal that will net 200,000 pay-per-view buys will also make him a rich man and not lose them money!

You should really go into business, and choose Fedor as the face of your company. You should do well.. LOL

[LEONARD]

Done

[oligarchy]

owned.

[jason1301]

It is frickin simple

UFC would give Fedor the toughest test there was, and he said no. he would earn more money but he said no.

Fedor lives in a past where still UFC have weak HW division and Americans are Americans. In Strikeforce really Leonard come on.

And I woul like to see Fedor expose a 50 pound heavier Brock with wrestling skills in a cage.
Really he had some problems holding of Hunto on the ground and it was in the ring.

At this point Barnett is STILL the toughest test for Fedor, plus UFC's offered him LESS money than he was making with Affliction.

Strikeforce is willing to co-promote, he gets to keep the rights to his own footage and the international rights of the events he fights in.

[oligarchy]

At this point Barnett is STILL the toughest test for Fedor, plus UFC's offered him LESS money than he was making with Affliction.

Strikeforce is willing to co-promote, he gets to keep the rights to his own footage and the international rights of the events he fights in.

STILL? Josh Barnett is as much of a test as Cro Cop is. Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

UFC offered LESS money than he was making with Affliction? Where did this info come from?

[polandprzem]

How much did Fedor earned in Affliction ? Last card?


Leonard said one worthy thing, 3 fights with the best in SF unless some injury will happen... it's still good. many guys says that he will beat them all and then back to UFC conversations as there will be no talent left outside UFC unless haha barnett vs Fedor on a Dream card? Who frickin knows?
It is not the same as Lesnar vs Fedor - that would broke the record and I assume UFC would so much promote this event it would go close to 2.5 mln ppv buys!

UFC and Fedor could not happen -in 2 years from now Fedor won't be that good and I don't know if UFC will need him and if UFC would like to spend so much money on him 2 years from now.
Fedor can then retire as he said he want to slow down a bit now that he is older.
For another reason UFC and Fedor could not happen - co-promotion bull . many people says it's all on vadim, what a bad guy. But Fedor got his shares in M-1 so it is really not that simple to quit on that and be his own menager. And that Garry Milen who is voce-president of M-1 or something ... there is just too many bad people around.

Fedor decided not to fight the greatest challange and many fans are blaming him for that. MMA world would be excited as . Unfortunately Emelianenko don't care about fans as much and he went for


As for Dana - that's his style, and I think many people do not understand it.

[IX_Equilibrium]

From Jake Rossen...


Strikeforce can match the ante with Alistair Overeem, Brett Rogers and some kind of wild card entrant: Bobby Lashley, Blagoi Ivanov, perhaps even Josh Barnett.

[angelbelow]

sucks to hear.

[jason1301]

STILL? Josh Barnett is as much of a test as Cro Cop is. Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

UFC offered LESS money than he was making with Affliction? Where did this info come from?

Barnett BEAT Nog and Randy when it meant something, I don't think he was owned by either Nog or Crocop.

Brock to Mir, not to a prime Nog or Mirko.

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

[djohn14]

This is good for the forum...everybody is all saying stuff and stuff not to mention other stuff. I really had a rational thought when I started this and I lost it after the word "forum". I could delete it, however I've came this far.

[LEONARD]

Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

I have to take exception with this...

Barnett split 2 close wars with Nog...

and the Crocop fight ended on an eye poke, and it was the 2nd fight of the night for both of them...with Crocop having the easier draw with Wandy (5 min fight) while Barnett beat Nog in a tough decision before facing Crocop. That's a tough back to back when both were top 5 HW's.

Saying that Nog and Crocop "owned" Barnett is extremely flawed and unfair to Barnett IMO...

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

The Guaranteed money might have been less and why should it be more? Fedor didn't make Affliction 3 cents when he fought for them. The Arlovski fight had a lousy 100,000 PPV buys.. His pay was going to be through the roof with the UFC marketing machine behind him, that's the point behind the UFC deal..

[oligarchy]

Barnett BEAT Nog and Randy when it meant something, I don't think he was owned by either Nog or Crocop.

Brock to Mir, not to a prime Nog or Mirko.

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

He beat Randy and then tested positive for steroids.. sweet. What? Steroids? Nahh... it was that protein shake I drank.

He's lost 3 times to CroCop, that is definite ownage. So, he won a SPLIT decision against Nog, then lost three months later to him, maybe not ownage -- oh well.


Fedor, if you want to think about it, lost part of his money when he fought with Affliction. It was co-branded with M-1, meaning they split costs and loses. Because Fedor has a stake and each event he was in lost money, he lost money. So, he didn't even make as much as what was reported. The fact is, even if Affliction's base is higher, you damn well know his PPV percentages will be MUCH higher than it was with Affliction. If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold with three other companies, so I get his fear.

[Evan]

vadim is worse than Dana ever dreamed of being.

end of story

[dbreiden83080]

If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold with three other companies, so I get his fear.

Pretty much what i said only i was more polite about it..

[oligarchy]

I have to take exception with this...

Barnett split 2 close wars with Nog...

and the Crocop fight ended on an eye poke, and it was the 2nd fight of the night for both of them...with Crocop having the easier draw with Wandy (5 min fight) while Barnett beat Nog in a tough decision before facing Crocop. That's a tough back to back when both were top 5 HW's.

Saying that Nog and Crocop "owned" Barnett is extremely flawed and unfair to Barnett IMO...

Why do you reply to anything.. go find a Fedor forum. Because Barnett was more tired and got KO'd, it isn't CroCop owning him -- gotcha. ..and SF has better fighters and he'll surely make more money in SF.

Check - Check - Check. Mr. Dio was sure right about you.

[oligarchy]

Here's Barnett NOT getting owned.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86...osh-barn_sport

[jason1301]

He beat Randy and then tested positive for steroids.. sweet. What? Steroids? Nahh... it was that protein shake I drank.

He's lost 3 times to CroCop, that is definite ownage. So, he won a SPLIT decision against Nog, then lost three months later to him, maybe not ownage -- oh well.


Fedor, if you want to think about it, lost part of his money when he fought with Affliction. It was co-branded with M-1, meaning they split costs and loses. Because Fedor has a stake and each event he was in lost money, he lost money. So, he didn't even make as much as what was reported. The fact is, even if Affliction's base is higher, you damn well know his PPV percentages will be MUCH higher than it was with Affliction. If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold with three other companies, so I get his fear.

Why you talk about the Nog and Mirko of 2005-2006, I never said Barnett is better than any these. He would KILL both of them today!!!

Fedor has invested in M-1, he is part owner. He sees M-1 as a security blanket, something that can make money from when his fighting career is over or if something happens to him like a freak injury. He also tries to promote MMA and he thinks that co-promoting like Boxing does is the future of the sport. Also he does like to fight in Japan on NYE, its tradition that can keep alive now that he joined strikeforce.

[polandprzem]

Why you talk about the Nog and Mirko of 2005-2006, I never said Barnett is better than any these. He would KILL both of them today!!!

Fedor has invested in M-1, he is part owner. He sees M-1 as a security blanket, something that can make money from when his fighting career is over or if something happens to him like a freak injury. He also tries to promote MMA and he thinks that co-promoting like Boxing does is the future of the sport. Also he does like to fight in Japan on NYE, its tradition that can keep alive now that he joined strikeforce.

Was he fighting in japan on NYE last year?

[jason1301]

Was he fighting in japan on NYE last year?

Can he fight this year???


Duuuuh!

[Evan]

This is good for the forum...everybody is all saying stuff and stuff not to mention other stuff. I really had a rational thought when I started this and I lost it after the word "forum". I could delete it, however I've came this far.

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