The Second Banana: Dirk vs. Manu

[Findog]

Strikeout take #1

You're an idiot.

[dbestpro]

And I'll reiterate: A frontline tandem of Duncan/Dirk and an average player at SG >>> Duncan/Fab and Manu at SG.

The question was understood perfectly.

Strikeout take #2

[dbestpro]

You're an idiot.

Strikeout take #3, damn you caught up with the homers.

[portnoy1]

In the series that the spurs lost in 06' Josh Howard was a matchup problem as was Devin Harris. In 09' JJ Barea and Dampier were the matchup problems.

[Findog]

Strikeout take #2

I'm going to create a poll and we'll see who agrees with me.

[DAF86]

You're right, Dirk doesn't have this ability to make his teammates better. He beat the Spurs all by himself three months ago and role players like Brandon Bass and JJ Barea didn't contribute at all...or look like All Stars because of the defensive attention paid to Dirk.

I think Dirk is a great offensive player (maybe the best offensive PF in the league) but I don't think of him as a playmaker. And I think the fact that he averages 2.4 assts per game in almost 40 minutes per game while having the ball on his hands most of the time proves my point.

[portnoy1]

I'm going to create a poll and we'll see who agrees with me.

I poll is already up bro

[DAF86]

A team with Dirk as its best player came as close to winning a le as Al Gore came to being President.

A team with Manu as its best player will struggle to make the playoffs.

And you know this how?

All I know is that every team that was lead by Manu won everything it could.

[Findog]

I think Dirk is a great offensive player (maybe the best offensive PF in the league) but I don't think of him as a playmaker. And I think the fact that he averages 2.4 assts per game in almost 40 minutes per game while having the ball on his hands most of the time proves my point.

If you don't think an elite franchise player makes his teammates tougher to guard, then I don't know what to say.

[Findog]

And you know this how?

He's a fringe All Star. Dirk is a franchise player.

All I know is that every team that was lead by Manu won everything it could.

If Dirk was born in Argentina and drafted by the Spurs, he'd have just as many Gold Medals and more rings. Manu: Right Place, Right Time.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Dirk. The guy is nearly unstoppable.

[easy7]

Manu: Right Place, Right Time and Right Team.

Fixed

[Findog]

Argentina wouldn't have won gold with Dirk instead of Manu. Nowitzki doesn't have the leadership nor the ability to make teammates better that Ginobili has. Besides Manu was a beast on the most difficult matches of that tournament.

[dbestpro]

I poll is already up bro

Its funny. He didn't like the results of this poll so he created essentially another one and had a troll call to sandbag his argument.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

This is the offseason Spurstalk that I know and love.

[Findog]

Its funny. He didn't like the results of this poll so he created essentially another one and had a troll call to sandbag his argument.

I have only one troll (MavericksDynasty) and he didn't vote in that poll.

[Findog]

Its funny. He didn't like the results of this poll so he created essentially another one and had a troll call to sandbag his argument.

I haven't voted in this poll and don't know what the results are.

[easy7]

Argentina wouldn't have won gold with Dirk instead of Manu. Nowitzki doesn't have the leadership nor the ability to make teammates better that Ginobili has. Besides Manu was a beast on the most difficult matches of that tournament.

Agree, Dirk being 100% healthy disappears when it matters the most. You can frustrate Dirk by getting on his face and he gives up.

[sonic21]

Agree, Dirk being 100% healthy disappears when it matters the most. You can frustrate Dirk by getting on his face and he gives up.

as we all saw in 2006 against the spurs

[MarCowMar]

Dirk. His build and skillset are more rare and with Duncan around things would open up even more for him.

That said I wouldn't begrudge anyone for picking Manu. He's a winner through and through and pairing either him or Dirk with Duncan=championships. There are so many things Manu brings to the game that most fans aren't aware of. Playing third wheel to Duncan and Parker has hidden a lot of his talent.

[Old School 44]

Agree, Dirk being 100% healthy disappears when it matters the most. You can frustrate Dirk by getting on his face and he gives up.

I wouldn't blame Dirk for giving up if this happened.

[easy7]

as we all saw in 2006 against the spurs

And in 2007 against the Warriors...

[024]

dirk because he wouldn't have fouled manu in 2006

[dirk4mvp]

Agree, Dirk being 100% healthy disappears when it matters the most. You can frustrate Dirk by getting on his face and he gives up.

Do you have the slightest clue as to what Dirk's career playoff numbers look like?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]