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  1. #51
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    That is why it's Rubio's fault.

    I mean wtf did he expect?

    Edit: And another thing, are the Wolves management this stupid to draft a guy with that much baggage? Guess so.
    Rubio's Espanol club should do him a favor in releasing him to NBA, or at least some Espanol banks should loan Rubio some cash to pay for the buyout and I'm sure Rubio will give back the money before long. Had Manu come to NBA as soon as getting drafted then I guess the debate about who is the better player between him and Dirk would be much debatable though Dirk would still win it anyway. You thought it's Rubio's fault to pick up a chance for realizing his dream of becoming a basketball superstar, then why did you come to America as an idiot begging for food on streets in South LA. What an idiot you are.

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    Lets not lose site of the fact that lakaluva is a complete moron in this thread.

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    Kahn: Rubio’s buyout ‘still very problematic’
    By Jon Krawczynski

    Minnesota Timberwolves president David Kahn said point guard Ricky Rubio’s buyout situation is “still very problematic” and he remains unsure of when the fifth overall pick will come to the United States.

    Rubio has two years remaining on his contract with DKV Joventut Badalona, his professional team in Spain, and has yet to be able to negotiate down a buyout number that is at least $6.6 million.

    “I believe his representatives are working diligently to get a solution. I have no idea at this point whether a solution can be reached. But I believe we kind of know what the parameters are and I think that we have a chance,” Kahn said Monday after announcing that Lakers assistant Kurt Rambis will be the team’s next head coach. “But I wouldn’t even begin to state the percentage toward that chance of this being accomplished this season versus next season or even two seasons. It’s still very problematic.”

    The Timberwolves selected Rubio with the No. 5 pick in the June draft, right before choosing another point guard in Jonny Flynn at No. 6. But they can only contribute $500,000 toward the buyout under NBA rules, which handicaps their ability to convince an 18-year-old kid who made just $97,000 to make a huge financial commitment to chase his dream in the league.

    After watching other teams in Spain submit much larger buyout offers to Joventut, Kahn said that NBA limit may need to be re-examined at some point.

    “The buyout amount is a very steep amount,” he said. “Unfortunately for us, the Timberwolves, we have to play this with one hand tied behind our back.”

    There was talk initially that Rubio did not want to play in the chilly, small market in Minnesota. But Kahn, who traveled to Spain to meet with Rubio’s family and officials from Joventut, echoed comments made by owner Glen Taylor last week that that is not the case.

    Kahn called the buyout element “the singular issue” that is preventing Rubio from joining the Wolves.

    Rubio is training with the Spanish national team, and Kahn reiterated his stance that the rebuilding Wolves can “think of a lot worse things than we have to wait a year or two.”

    He also clarified his position on playing Flynn and Rubio together with the Timberwolves. When he drafted the point guards back-to-back in June, Kahn said he saw the two playing off each other much the way Detroit’s smaller backcourt of Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars did with the Pistons.

    Skeptics wondered how that would work with Flynn and Rubio, two players that rely more on dribble-drive penetration than outside shooting and excel when the ball is in their hands.

    But Kahn said Monday that both should expect to play heavy minutes right from the start, though not necessarily at the same time during the games.

    “You can very easily come up with a scenario where both Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn would play approximately 30-32 minutes and be on the floor together for a grand total of about 16 minutes,” Kahn said. “I think that there’s kind of been this sense that they can’t play together and people are saying like for the whole game.

    “That’s never been the vision. They can’t possibly play together the whole game and they’re not ready to play together the whole game.”

    Instead, Kahn sees the two point guards as the one-two punch in a fastbreak attack under Rambis, the former member of the Showtime Lakers in the 1980s.

    “With one kid 18 and one 20, it probably would be a mistake to play either of them minutes in the mid to high 30s,” Kahn said. “They’re probably not ready to do that, especially at that position.”

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    What's the big deal? You let him play out the two years overseas knowing you got a PG with great potential with the #5 pick in an awful draft. It's not like Minnesota is competing for a playoff spot right now.
    I hear ya, it makes sense.

    But what makes more sense is for them to get a PG to grow with the team and be a serious contender in a few years.

    Even if they get a decent team in a few years, it'll take a couple of years after that to incorporate Rubio into their rotation, style of play..etc..etc.

    I've seen the guy play alot of times. He's not just going to seamlessly fit in. He's going to have to take his lumps when he gets into this league for a couple of years. Will the Wolves waste a couple of years getting him...and then waste a couple more for him to fit in?
    Last edited by YellowFever; 08-10-2009 at 08:39 PM.

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    ....then why did you come to America as an idiot begging for food on streets in South LA. What an idiot you are.
    Look elsewhere to do your trolling, boy.
    I'm not interested.

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    I hear ya, it makes sense.

    But what makes more sense is for them to get a PG to grow with the team and be a serious contender in a few years.

    Even if they get a decent team in a few years, it'll take a couple of years after that to incorporate Rubio into their rotation, style of play..etc..etc.

    I've seen the guy play alot of times. He's not just going to seamlessly fit in. He's going to have to take his lumps when he gets into this league for a couple of years. Will the Wolves waste a couple of years getting him...and then waste a couple more for him to fit in?
    Ricky Rubio is a ing genius, apparently his talent can hardly be noticed by morons.

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    If they are able to convince Rubio and Pekovic ( a former pick ) to sign in a year or two, then Minny will have a pretty good young core.If I'm not mistaken this is Pekovic's last season in Greece and he might be open to a move to the NBA next summer. He was their 31st pick so will be able to get a decent contract too.
    Nope. Pekovic will play 2 more years with Panathinaikos.

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    I hear ya, it makes sense.

    But what makes more sense is for them to get a PG to grow with the team and be a serious contender in a few years.

    Even if they get a decent team in a few years, it'll take a couple of years after that to incorporate Rubio into their rotation, style of play..etc..etc.

    I've seen the guy play alot of times. He's not just going to seamlessly fit in. He's going to have to take his lumps when he gets into this league for a couple of years. Will the Wolves waste a couple of years getting him...and then waste a couple more for him to fit in?
    So he'll be, what, 22 by then?

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    I hear ya, it makes sense.

    But what makes more sense is for them to get a PG to grow with the team and be a serious contender in a few years.

    Even if they get a decent team in a few years, it'll take a couple of years after that to incorporate Rubio into their rotation, style of play..etc..etc.

    I've seen the guy play alot of times. He's not just going to seamlessly fit in. He's going to have to take his lumps when he gets into this league for a couple of years. Will the Wolves waste a couple of years getting him...and then waste a couple more for him to fit in?
    Ginobili only needed a season to get used to the NBA, and even that was mostly because of a lingering injury from the world championships. Not that Rubio is yet anywhere near as accomplished as Manu was in Europe, but the talent's definitely there.

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    You mis-read my post. The league should not allow players to be drafted while having other contract obligations that could prevent that player from playing with the team that drafted him.
    maybe YOU need to re-read what you typed. you said Rubio had a choice to turn down Minny and now you're saying he doesn't ("contract obligtions")... wtf?

    you're a moron. go troll; you suck at trying to make sense.

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    The league should not allow players to be drafted while having other contract obligations that could prevent that player from playing with the team that drafted him.
    I totally agree with this. If a guy enters the NBA draft, he should be bound to play in the NBA for the coming season else be barred from playing pro basketball. It's BS that you can draft a guy and then he can just skip the country on you. You shouldn't be allowed to enter the draft if you already have a binding contract with some other league's team and haven't gotten out of it yet. People say this $500k buyout limit is ridiculous, but I don't think NBA teams should be expected to buy out these Euro guys in the first place. Those overseas teams should not be allowed to hold the NBA hostage like that. I think the NBA should have a $0 buyout limit.

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    If a team drafts someone knowing they have contract obligations, they accept the fact that that player might not be available at the time. Forcing players to commit to the NBA would only make the talent pool smaller, and keep teams from getting a talented player they may not have access to in the future. The system in place works and I don't see any good reason to change it.

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    Good luck getting the ring to Mordor, Rubio!

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    Olympiacos owners announced officially Wafer. The press conference will happen when he gets to Athens.

    http://www.olympiacos.org/#/Article/26198/

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    [QUOTE=ChumpDumper;3625699]So he'll be, what, 22 by then?[/QUOTE

    You missed the point.

    Rubio's age is irrelevant. It's the fact that the Wolves just have to wait that much longer to see if he'll fit in. Run him through the mills to see if he's worth keeping or ship his ass out. Now they gotta wait until he can play for them to find out if he fits into their plan.

    In effect they just put their rebuilding plans on hold another couple of years.

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    Ginobili only needed a season to get used to the NBA, and even that was mostly because of a lingering injury from the world championships. Not that Rubio is yet anywhere near as accomplished as Manu was in Europe, but the talent's definitely there.
    1). Rubio is nowhere the player Gino is.

    2). SG's, Fowards and centers are much more easier to "plug in" into a system. It won't be that easy to plug in a PG. In effect, the the PG's bring in their own style of play and if he's good, they fill in the pieces around him.

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