According to Eurobasket, the majority of top ten players in every major statistical category consists of American scrubs.
USA > Greece.
Even in Greece.
You are a funny guy. You post this to prove what? That only one player on the list (the Greek one) is able to actually make the roster of a good club in Europe?
The rest of them cannot even make the roster of a good club. You are a funny guy with the crap you post. You embarrass yourself over and over.
According to Eurobasket, the majority of top ten players in every major statistical category consists of American scrubs.
USA > Greece.
Even in Greece.
Why do the Euro clubs waste the most money on Childress?
And there is only 2 players on the list that are good at Greek league level. Nicholas and Batiste. The others are either considered average (like let's say Childress) or terrible (like let's say Pargo).
And besides that list is obviously not "current". So do you have the ability to make a good point even once in history of your time in this forum?
There is ONLY 2 good players in Greek league from that entire list. The rest are average or below average and some of them suck.
I agree those are bad teams because of they don't allow more Americans to be on them.
You are a stupid guy.
These players you brag about playing for teams like AEL and Egaleo and such...............you would be really laughed out of EVERY international sports forum on internet.
The very best player on these small types of clubs would not even make it as a 15th man on the bigger clubs.
There are no Greeks playing at a good level in the NBA.
I said it was eurobasket's list. I'm not going to waste my time bringing it up to date because my point that there are far more Americans playing well in Greece than Greeks playing in the NBA is proved and would only be reinforced.And besides that list is obviously not "current". So do you have the ability to make a good point even once in history of your time in this forum?
There is only one Greek in the NBA and he sucks.There is ONLY 2 good players in Greek league from that entire list. The rest are average or below average and some of them suck.
Each Greek club is allowed 3 Greek players now they changed the rule. You are really funny though...........Devon Hardin? I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe the worst big man in Greek League last year and this guy is an NBA draft pick. Please give me a break.
USA > Greece in basketball, that is a given.....
KBP.....not only do Americans dominate Greeks on the basketball court....they also dominate the conversations.....notice we are speaking American in all of these arguments, not Greek? USA OWNS.......now run along and eat your gyro.
You couldn't be more full of if you were Rosie O'Donnell's asscrack
You mean three American players?
Why three?
I agree he's a scrub, but he led the league in blocks. That's how horrible Greek basketball is.You are really funny though...........Devon Hardin? I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe the worst big man in Greek League last year and this guy is an NBA draft pick. Please give me a break.
It is dominated by American scrubs so badly that their numbers are restricted out of fear.
And you are also wrong. Steve Smith has played in NBA before and he did not lead Greek league in scoring.
Also Hardin is an NBA draft pick from just last year. Smith is decent player for Greek level, Francis is below average and Hardin bad for the level.
the very best Greek player sucked in the NBA.
Panathinaikos would crush and annihilate the scrub NBA teams.
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Doug Collins said it after Greece Argentina game.
link? proof? video? ANYTHING? I could say Doug Collins said I could be the best player in the NBA with a good coach too, but that doesn't mean without proof.
He led the A1 league in points per game according to eurobasket.
And I apologize, he played 8 games for the 76ers, averaging 0.6 points and 0.8 rebounds. Now he's a starter in the sucky Greek league.
According to eurobasket, they are the league average leaders in their categories. If you have something that says otherwise, post it.Also Hardin is an NBA draft pick from just last year. Smith is decent player for Greek level, Francis is below average and Hardin bad for the level.
Doug Collins is a nimrod....if you are taking his word as gospel, then prepare for , fire, and brimstone.
KBP, please answer my question. You misunderstand me. I never said the Childress was the best player.
I just asked why was he paid the largest contract in the Euroleague when he sucks? What is the reasoning behind it?
6 Americans considered good at Greek level last year. Most all those players listed by chump not found here and also no Childress and Pargo. Most of those American players didn't win last year either team wise or individual wise in Greek league but chump is bragging about putting up stats in some small club.......
See for yourself since he loves to claim eurobasket.com as the source for who are the best players last year in Greece. I highlight Spanoulis and also the Americans.
http://www.eurobasket.com/reports/2009/6/7.asp
All-Greek A1 League Awards 2008-2009
Player of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens
Guard of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens
Forward of the Year - Jarod Stevenson (200-F-75) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Center of the Year - Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens
Most Improved Player of the Year - Manolis Papamakarios (190-G-80) of Panellinios Athens
Bosman Player of the Year - Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens
Import Player of the Year - Mike Batiste (203-F-77) of Panathinaikos Athens
Domestic Player of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens
Defensive Player of the Year - Dimitris Diamantidis (196-G-80) of Panathinaikos Athens
Coach of the Year - Soulis Markopoulos of Marousi
1st Team
Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens
Lynn Greer (186-G-79) of Olympiakos S.F.P. Pireus
Jarod Stevenson (200-F-75) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Giannis Bourousis (212-C-83) of Olympiakos S.F.P. Pireus
Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens
2nd Team
Sarunas Jasikevicius (192-G-76) of Panathinaikos Athens
Andrew Nicholas (191-G-81) of Panathinaikos Athens
Prodromos Nikolaidis (201-F-78) of AS Trikalla 2000
Loukas Mavrokefalides (207-C-84) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Mike Batiste (203-F-77) of Panathinaikos Athens
Honorable Mention
Konstantinos Charalampidis (189-G-76) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Anthony Grundy (189-G-79) of Panellinios Athens
Steven Smith (203-F-83) of VAP Kolossos
Kostas Kaimakoglou (206-C/F-83) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Andrew Betts (216-C-77) of Aris Thessaloniki
Aaron Miles (186-G-83) of Panionios ON Telecoms Athens
Also the ONLY American player that won a team award was Batiste. NBA fans "Pargo and Childress dominate Greece"![]()
Olympiacos owners are NBA only fans just like almost all NBA fans are. The owners of Olympiacos grew up in Chicago and they were Bulls fans and had season tickets court side during Jordan era.
They are just like other NBA fans and believe the lie that a player like Ryan Bowen (who was cut by TAU for poor play - yet has played many years in NBA) would "dominate in Europe" because "the worst player in NBA would average 30 and be MVP of Europe".
Olympiacos owners are just as re ed as most other NBA fans.
If you want to go by total points scored, fine.
The A1 leader in total points was Anthony Grundy (USA) - 26 NBA games played, 44 D-League games played.
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