Hey, you. I made a stop in a couple of the MNF threads tonight, too.
The VMAs don't mean a damn thing. No awards shows mean a damn thing. They're all a marketing instrument to get people to buy more music and movie tickets. Therefore, both of these people are insignificant, vain, self-important hacks who don't deserve another mention.
I love how Kanye said to Taylor, "I'm really happy for you, I'm going to let you finish" and then he didn't let her finish.
Oh, Kanye... You're too funny.
I find it humorous that if one person is a jerk to another person in everyday life, nobody cares, but if a celebrity is a jerk to another celebrity in public it is a huge big deal that everybody in the country needs to talk about for days. It's almost like we've become conditioned to feel what the popular media tell us to feel. Hmmm.
I also enjoy the hilarious opinions like "Being a bag in public is actually refreshing and honest," "the VMA's are actually very, very important artistically and I lament how MTV has degraded them into crass commercialism," and "this is a teachable moment for us to understand our own racism." Obviously these opinions are laughably stupid, but part of our media programming for responding to non-events like this is to have the self-important "enlightened" people read the stupid contrarian opinions of other self-important "enlightened" people and disseminate them as their own. This makes the self-important "enlightened" people feel special and smart, and fans the flames, so to speak.
Good lord, people. It's not as if he got up on stage and killed her puppy.
He was a jerk, she was blindsided, but we're still talking about both of them two days later. People are nuts if they don't realize that Kanye did her a favor.
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I don't think it has anything to do with what the "media tells us." He did it in a public venue. He acted like a jerk and we here are discussing it. If you want to bring in everyday instances where people act like jerks, go ahead. No one is stopping you.
He didn't do her a favor. GTFO
You are also nuts if you don't think his actions didn't hurt her. Good lord don't be so surprised, people talk about lots of things for days
+1i always thought she was sexy
Have you heard/read her comments about the issue? Sounds like she's pretty well over it and had a good night overall.
Doesn't mean his actions still didn't hurt. I wouldn't expect her to go nuts and have a nervous breakdown over it but most people are good at putting on a good and pretty face.
Until this incident I had spent maybe .5 seconds of my life contemplating who exactly Taylor Swift is. But now? Well to be honest, I still don't care about her, but I damn sure know who she is.
What Kanye did to the girl was ish, childish and offensive, but c'mon, any publicity is good publicity- especially for victims.
I doubt she was even thinking about the people who don't know about her. She has more than enough fans, and makes more than enough money. Kanye didn't do her any favors.
Exactly. Just because she said and did all the right things doesn't mean that she still doesn't hurt or isn't upset by it.
Excellent!
Bah. Kanye's career might be over. Every single person in that auditorium and who's seen the clip is sympathizing with Taylor Swift. And sure, maybe her career was doing great otherwise, but let's not pretend that she doesn't look better today and Kanye doesn't look worse, much worse.
So yeah, if you don't want to call it a favor, I'd see why; it was a hostile act and calling the fallout a favor is bad semantics. But seriously, she's no worse for the wear and probably a little bit better for it. The way I'd describe it is that there's a silver lining to being bullied and and mocked in front of a crowd of sympathetic onlookers.
I'm not a fan of either one, and most likely not of fan of anyone who appeared on that show. It's just ridiculous to say that anyone benefitted from it, or that the public anger has anything to do with race. The fact is that he behaved as nothing more than a cowardly schoolyard bully, the kind that everyone dislikes. It doesn't matter if the "victim" was black or white, or a woman or a man, he could have gone up there and taken his chances with an adult. But he chose to publicly bully a kid and that is what makes the entire incident offensive.
edit: I recant what I stated about no one benefitting. MTV has clearly benefitted.
Last edited by mrsmaalox; 09-15-2009 at 10:18 AM.
fck kayne
I just saw Taylor Swift on The View (adorable BTW), and she said Kanye has not made any personal gestures of apology to her. I wonder what he's waiting for?
fck kayne
Those are fantastic.
That is just wrong.
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