whole lot of words for a camby masturbatory story.
Come on guys...Mase had two BAD games during the playoffs, (after being placed at the 1, then benched) but we need that knockdown shooter on the team. I know some would say we can't have guys standing on the perimeter the whole game, but this is why we have guys like RJ who will play extended minutes rather than someone like Finley.
Whats wrong with Camby? Honestly we were all wondering about Wing specialist Position and it got filled. Were still talking about a big tall shot blocker that can play 25mins or more EVERYGAME ( See Ratliff ). Who's to say that wont get filled. Pop already said that with all the moves the spurs have made their still beaten by the Lakers in length.
Very awesome. I love this guy, he was fun to watch when he was with the Magic and he plays pretty good D too, upgrade over Udoka that's for sure
So your saying that the spurs are gonna pay RJ $14million to stand around the 3pt line like they do all there SF's?
I know several people have said this already, but the Spurs handing out another fully guaranteed contract at this point in time is strange. Either there's another trade coming, or the Spurs feel they have enough youth in their guaranteed roster and would rather have veterans in spots 12-15 than virtual rookies.
Mason Finley Mahimni for Nocioni.
Tim McDyess Nocioni RJ Tony
Manu Hill Bogans Blair Ratliff Bonner Haislip.
Damn solid team.
We still don't know if Manu is going to be completely healthy by the start of the season. I think it makes sense to have someone experienced as a backup instead of unproven players like Malik or Marcus.
I prefer the Spurs keep the young players and try to develop them and trade Finley and Bonner.
Actually, he said the opposite.
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The 3pt line isn't that Vital if you move the ball around quick enough or you get a nice little while to line things up from the 3 cause of good penetration from guards ( Manu/Jefferson can knock down and create enough 3pt shots to keep the defense honest) .
It's a pleasant surprise to see this signing. He had a real nice season with Orlando in 2007-08 where he had a key 3-point shooting role. He started almost half the games that year and averaged 8.6 ppg regular season and 7.3 ppg in 10 playoff games.
To get this type of physical, energy player, in a system with a great shooting coach at the minimum salary is good. He hasn't demonstrated the basketball IQ that Udoka has but this signing is good for certain matchups. He should be able to guard Jet Terry better than Mason does, he's quick enough not to draw that many fouls, and he can stick the corner 3.
Hopefully, he can mentally engage enough to learn the Spurs' system and not get buried on the bench.
Oh, and quit trying to trade Mason. Mason is better than Bogans and the Spurs need scoring punch too.
Exactly, why trade Mason? Finley is clearly the one that needs to be traded if anyone at all. This is not even a close call.
very very good move (for a minimum signing). Bogans is pretty much exactly the same player like Ime, but he should be slightly better in every aspect of the game and also a bit quicker. so that's an upgrade and there is also the chance that he will flourish with the Spurs. (what Ime not exactly did).
I agree that Fin looks more and more like the 5th weel, the only point left is the size advantage he brings over all the 6'5'' wings Spurs now have. however, a 6'5'' Bogans might defend bigger than the 6'7'' Finley these days.
as mentioned, a move of Fin+another player would make the most sense. most think it would be Bonner and there are some good reasons. Spurs might be willing to take back a longer contract, if therefore they save some money and tax in the short run. I also wouldn't rule out a package of Fin+Ian. (Fin+Matt+Ian? why not?)
All im saying is with this new signing filling the defensive specialist position that was up in the air we can now use some other guys that dont serve that big of purpose for a REAL Big man that will be needed to compete against the lakers/Cavs. So it's not that Mason Jr. is bad, I like what he brings but if there is way we can get a shot blocker and he is part of the key, I would be willing to deal him.
timvp, gets his first "kluby" in a while. You earned it with your self-gloss. At least you didn't go third-person on us this time.
Yeah I know getting rid of Mason is such a terrible idea. Having someone to stand in the corner to shoot 3's at a 40 percent clip 20 minutes a game is so hard to replace.
Yes, you mean our stand around system. The league has changed, I would like to see Pop make some Offensive adjustments. Its kinda weird to, cause' he tried to keep his Defensive Philosophy with Players that couldn't really D up ( Bonner / Finley ) while Trying to Change his Offensive Philosophy with Players that Put up shots an nothing else. With all the Talent that the Spurs have now, I'm excited to see how Pop decides to use these guys.
There's nothing wrong with Camby. There's plenty wrong with your notion that the Clippers are going to want to trade him to us for Finley, Bonner and Mason.
bad news for hairston and williams if finley doesn't get traded. maybe the grizzlies will want finley. bogans' offense is pretty poor for a spot up shooter role, career 39.4 FG% and 35.1 3PT%. his defense will hopefully negate that disadvantage though. bogans' career is pretty much in the same stage as bowen's when bowen first joined the spurs. bounced around from team to team with inconsistent FG percentages.
timvp, gets his first "kluby" in a while. You earned it with your self-gloss. At least you didn't go third-person on us this time.
Very good signing. I think we needed someone to play the Udoka role (Bruce D is impossible to find).
Now we have RJ/Manu/Mason Jr/Finley/Bogans at the wings
If Williams shows he can play PG I think he'll get the 15th spot.
Bingo. This year Mason will be the perfect fit for the role he'll be asked to fill. Last year he was asked to be Manu and he wasn't up to the task. That's not his fault.
Thats fine if we dont get Camby, I'm just talking about getting rid of first of all Bonner/Finley for a tall shotblocker/rebounder. Camby came to mind and that meant another player to trade, Mason Jr. fit the bill. If there are others that come at a cheaper price ( Just Finley/Bonner ) I'd love to have them.
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