Misplaced Fears About the 'Czars'

[DarrinS]

Damn, this is awesome.


Look at table 13-5 in Holdren's Ecoscience


"Evaluation of Some Relatively Coercive Measures for Fertility Reduction"

I love row labelled "Restriction on individual liberty".

[Winehole23]

It's not that people have a problem with the presidental advisors, what they have is a problem with is the overstepping of these people"s power and the clandestine way in which lunatics and radicals are being allowed to form policy

How have the czars overstepped their power?

[Winehole23]

Give one example of czar-formulated policy, micca.

[hope4dopes]

Again the Clarance Darrow thing is getting ridiculous,what are we supposed to believe they are in charge of flower arrangment or the whitehouse organic veggie garden. The Appollo foundation.

[Winehole23]

Damn, this is awesome.


Look at table 13-5 in Holdren's Ecoscience


"Evaluation of Some Relatively Coercive Measures for Fertility Reduction"

So Holdren seemed to advocate baby licenses 30 years ago.

i'll admit that's pretty kooky. But how does this relate to the OP, or to Holdren's fitness or nonfitness for an advisory post? Does Holdren hold these beliefs now?

More importantly, as a WH czar, what is it in Holdren's power to actually do?

[Winehole23]

Again the Clarance Darrow thing is getting ridiculous,what are we supposed to believe they are in charge of flower arrangment or the whitehouse organic veggie garden. The Appollo foundation.

They are advisors, and they promote WH policy. They do not make policy or promulgate regulations. Their signature and work product are not legally binding for others in government, unlike cabinet officers.

[hope4dopes]

They are advisors, and they promote WH policy. They do not make policy or promulgate regulations. Their signature and work product are not legally binding for others in government, unlike cabinet officers.

So what your saying is I'm acting on cir stantal evidence counselor?

[ChumpDumper]

Damn, these get better and better.


No weirdness here.

No advocating either.

Liar.

[Winehole23]

Make your case. How are czars abusing power?

[DarrinS]

So Holdren seemed to advocate baby licenses 30 years ago.

i'll admit that's pretty kooky. But how does this relate to the OP, or to Holdren's fitness or nonfitness for an advisory post? Does Holdren hold these beliefs now?

More importantly, as a WH czar, what is it in Holdren's power to actually do?

I really don't know what power these people have.

[DarrinS]

No advocating either.

Liar.

You make a really strong case.

[ChumpDumper]

So what your saying is I'm acting on cir stantal evidence counselor?

So what specifically have the czars done that you are against?

[Winehole23]

I don't really know what power these people have.

That's because they don't have any.

They advise. They do the bidding of the President. That's about it.

[ChumpDumper]

You make a really strong case.

You have provided all the evidence -- unwittingly of course, but wit cannot be expected from you.

[DarrinS]

That's because they don't have any.

They advise. They do the bidding of the President. That's about it.

Well, he sure picked some kooky people for these positions.

[hope4dopes]

That's because they don't have any.

They advise. They do the bidding of the President. That's about it.

You forgot they also do the weeding in mic e's tomato patch.

[DarrinS]

You have provided all the evidence -- unwittingly of course, but wit cannot be expected from you.

46,000+ lame-ass posts and counting. You're going to break some kind of record.

[Winehole23]

You forgot they also do the weeding in mic e's tomato patch.

Scary.

[hope4dopes]

That's because they don't have any.

They advise. They do the bidding of the President. That's about it.

stupid

[Winehole23]

Well, he sure picked some kooky people for these positions.

It's fine to be upset about that, and the furore hasn't been fruitless -- at least two of Obama's picks have been kicked to the curb. So give yourself a pat on the back.

But the idea that the President's picks for non-official advisory posts should be subject to Congressional consent is just silly. The President can-- and should be able to -- seek out candid advice wherever he pleases.

[Winehole23]

stupid

Prove me wrong if you can.

[ChumpDumper]

46,000+ lame-ass posts and counting. You're going to break some kind of record.

And post-count smack from work is hilarious.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, micca....

So what specifically have the czars done that you are against?

[hope4dopes]

Hey, micca....

Oh look Whinehole's monkey, hey whinehole throw Chimp a bananna and make him do that little dance again.

[Winehole23]

So basically, you got nothing.