Wow.....there really needs to be a playoff.

[j-6]

I'd love an eight (or even sixteen) game playoff because anything less will still rely on human judgment via polls or a selection committee - even worse, a frigging computer. I'm almost to the point with the BCS that we should just go back to the old system of a certain bowl being the reward for a conference champion. I feel for the little guy because Boise and Utah have answered the ''any given Saturday'' argument but nothing is getting done about improving the system. And face it - if the Big 12 winner and the SEC champ played each other for pride in Jerryland at the end of the year, you'd watch.

[vander]

I'd love an eight (or even sixteen) game playoff because anything less will still rely on human judgment via polls or a selection committee - even worse, a frigging computer. I'm almost to the point with the BCS that we should just go back to the old system of a certain bowl being the reward for a conference champion. I feel for the little guy because Boise and Utah have answered the ''any given Saturday'' argument but nothing is getting done about improving the system. And face it - if the Big 12 winner and the SEC champ played each other for pride in Jerryland at the end of the year, you'd watch.

when they schedule someone the BCS will give them a shot, it's not the BCS's fault.

[vander]

As I said in the other thread, you would still need polls to have a playoff. Start them in October instead of pre-season, first of all. Then, you form a selection committee like in CBB to select the final teams(however many that may be, I say 10). Next, you have the playoff games in the BCS bowls, while the remaining teams play in all the other normal bowls. I could even go for a bye for the top 2 seeds(based on polls, not the selection committee), thus putting more importance on the regular season.

Rivalries and tradition are what college football is built on, so I don't see any way the reg season is hurt by a playoff. Auburn/Alabama, Ohio St/Michigan, Miami/FSU, Florida/UGA, USC/UCLA, Oregon/Oregon St,Michigan/Notre Dame, and on and on. None of these matchups will deteriorate in intensity or importance with a playoff.

but all the rest of the games will, for instance Oregon/Cal and Oregon/Utah were huge for me as a BSU fan, fresno/Wisconsin still hurts, as does the rest of the Fresno and Nevada losses, with a playoffs, I don't give a about any of those games because an undefeated BSU will undoubtedly have a chance at the end of the year

And Vander, didn't your victory over Oklahoma a few years ago show you that you can play with the big-boys? , you beat Oregon this year! Or Utah last year vs Bama? TCU is beating BCS teams every weekend it seems like. The fact that small conference teams get screwed every year pisses me off, and i'm an SEC fan!

I don't think any rational BSU fan thought we could stand a chance against Florida that year, we were lucky we got to play Choklahoma and were ecstatic with the win, that win was the greatest sporting event/moment of all time IMO, getting mauled by Florida the following week would only have diminished the greatness of it. those guys won the ing Fiesta Bowl, they went out on top.

Utah might have more to gripe about, but still, you want to make the championship? you got 5 out of conference games to schedule big boys, 2 of those 5 for Utah were Weber state and Utah State, come back and complain when those are at least middle of the pack BCS teams

[symple19]

but all the rest of the games will, for instance Oregon/Cal and Oregon/Utah were huge for me as a BSU fan, fresno/Wisconsin still hurts, as does the rest of the Fresno and Nevada losses, with a playoffs, I don't give a about any of those games because an undefeated BSU will undoubtedly have a chance at the end of the year


I don't think any rational BSU fan thought we could stand a chance against Florida that year, we were lucky we got to play Choklahoma and were ecstatic with the win, that win was the greatest sporting event/moment of all time IMO, getting mauled by Florida the following week would only have diminished the greatness of it. those guys won the ing Fiesta Bowl, they went out on top.

Utah might have more to gripe about, but still, you want to make the championship? you got 5 out of conference games to schedule big boys, 2 of those 5 for Utah were Weber state and Utah State, come back and complain when those are at least middle of the pack BCS teams

I give up...Agree to disagree