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    Bonner didn't respond well when Gooden arrived last year. It will interesting to see how he reacts to: Ian, Antonio, Haislip, and Blair all joining the team this year. It's a contract year and I'm sure he wants to try and earn another one but there's no proof that he'll be great in some small 10 mpg role. If anything he could come in and start jacking up horrible shots a la Beno, NVE, and a host of other players who tried to overdo the limited minutes they received.

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    A confident Bonner is a huge asset. He has talent. A Bonner full of self-doubt and busy in his head needs to go.

    He started passing up his shots and looked terrible at the end of the season but for a while ther he was showing his potential.

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    Bonner was the worst of the worst.

    And other players being horrible in the Mavs series also draw question marks about their ability for the playoffs (it's the case for Mason). It also surely isn't a coincidence if half of the team that played against Mavs is gone.

    The guy is gonna be a 10 minute a game guy and most likely squeezed out of the playoffs.

    Making the guy out to be the gringo osama bi laden and trying to trade him every five seconds is freaking stupid.

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    The guy is gonna be a 10 minute a game guy and most likely squeezed out of the playoffs.

    Making the guy out to be the gringo osama bi laden and trying to trade him every five seconds is freaking stupid.
    You babbled the same thing last year about your idol Michael and yet Mrs. Finley had him in 30 a game, again.

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    The guy is gonna be a 10 minute a game guy and most likely squeezed out of the playoffs.

    Making the guy out to be the gringo osama bi laden and trying to trade him every five seconds is freaking stupid.
    Well, I'm not making Bonner the "gringo osama bi laden". You should confuse me with someone else.

    My point is just that:
    - For vets players with Spurs, it's all about the playoffs.
    - Bonner has been horrible in last year playoffs.

    So I wonder if Bonner can be good in the playoffs with a more limited role than last year and with a better team around him ?

    I don't have the answer at that question.

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    I joke about Bonner occasionally because a lot of people can't stand him for some reason, but I actually like him. He seems like a good guy and is a great 3 point specialist. I don't see why other teams wouldn't want him in a trade, I think he's a good trade asset if they decide they need to address some flaw in the team.

    Also, now that Duncan has slimmed down, Bonner might be the biggest guy on our team.

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    The guy is gonna be a 10 minute a game guy and most likely squeezed out of the playoffs.

    Making the guy out to be the gringo osama bi laden and trying to trade him every five seconds is freaking stupid.
    He has an expiring contract (IIRC). There's nothing stupid about trying to trade him.

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    Well, I'm not making Bonner the "gringo osama bi laden". You should confuse me with someone else.

    My point is just that:
    - For vets players with Spurs, it's all about the playoffs.
    - Bonner has been horrible in last year playoffs.

    So I wonder if Bonner can be good in the playoffs with a more limited role than last year and with a better team around him ?

    I don't have the answer at that question.

    I didn't say you were.

    Was just re stating a position.

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    He has an expiring contract (IIRC). There's nothing stupid about trying to trade him.
    You trade him for what.

    Another shooting guard for small forward?

    Please.

    Theres nothing out there that you'd get in equal value.

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    No one in hear is saying the guy is starter worthy, but it seems like everyone wants a team with 12 guys averaging 20-10
    I wouldn't mind.

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    You babbled the same thing last year about your idol Michael and yet Mrs. Finley had him in 30 a game, again.

    Miss the whole Ginobili missing 80% of the season ?


    Root for another goddamn team.

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    i dont think bonner is being treated unfairly. Many of us like him despite his flaws. The problem is, no matter how hard he tries, he makes bad mistakes and is inconsistent. If bonner were a consistently bad player, he would have more fans (a la scalabrine- goofy guys that try hard are easy to root for). but he has flashes where he plays good, and he plays a lot of minutes with the best PF of all time next to him so you have to wonder, what does this guy need to consistently play well?

    I dont think its unfair. He got a great chance to cement his place in the rotation and he didnt produce consistently. he still gets lost on rotations and he still bricks the occasional open shot despite being a shooting specialist. and then when a new player was brought in, instead of taking the motivation he lost his confidence. Dont see anything unfair in any part of that situation.

    Now of course if you were expecting a double double with 2 blocks you could call that unfair, but I think that is more stupid than unfair.

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    You trade him for what.

    Another shooting guard for small forward?

    Please.

    Theres nothing out there that you'd get in equal value.
    There's always something out there. Maybe something along the lines of a 3rd string PG and a lottery pick.

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    There's always something out there. Maybe something along the lines of a 3rd string PG and a lottery pick.
    Pass me some of what your smoking.

    BTW, you trade a three point shooting bigman for a 3rd string point guard that can be signed out fo the D League?

    Really?

    I mean, really!?

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    Miss the whole Ginobili missing 80% of the season ?


    Root for another goddamn team.
    Miss the whole Mason at SG while GNob was out?
    Miss the whole Bowen outshooting your crush Finley while not playing sieve D to boot?

    You're a Spurs opponents dream come true.
    We don't know how Bonner will do this years playoffs. Shut your piehole about the simple idea of floating his expiring for a trade offer.

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    honestly, i would be perfectly content with just releasing bonner straight up. this s about winning not treating some choke job fairly.

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    Yeah lets keep perpetuating the myth that Bonner is this "pathetic" defender.

    He's not Bruce Bowen, but he's not Jack freaking Haley either.
    Yeah he's not a center either.

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    Bonner is weak player. But the Spurs could be keeping his expiring contract to make rook for Tiago. Their salaries and roster spot look like a pretty good match.

    As far as this year. I wish Bonner could be a dependable 10-12 mpg player with the high 3%. But in the end I don't think he has what it takes. If Haislip outplays him, he should get those minutes. The Spurs need a more athletic vibe at the C/PF to compete with the best teams in the NBA.

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    Am I the only one who has a flashback to the Mavs series every time I see a training camp picture or video featuring Bonner? Him falling flat on his face in his first true test with the Spurs isn't something easy to forget.

    That said, I've been of the opinion that the Spurs should hold onto him. I would never trust him in a clutch situation because he's proven he can't handle pressure but there will be some situations where he'll be useful. Bonner plays well in the pick-and-roll, especially when guarded by an immobile big. He can also spread the court against a zone or if Duncan is getting doubled by the opposing big.

    If he can recover from last season's disaster of a playoffs and learn to play a spot role off the bench, Bonner could be an asset. If he is mentally damaged by his playoff failure or can't find his stroke without consistent playing time, Bonner will probably be viewed as filler contract #1 come the trade deadline.

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    The luxury of depth. If Bonner isn't producing, he doesn't have to keep playing. Unlike last year.

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    Bonner will be an excelent option from 0.01 sec. to 0.05 sec. of playing time

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    Pass me some of what your smoking.

    BTW, you trade a three point shooting bigman for a 3rd string point guard that can be signed out fo the D League?

    Really?

    I mean, really!?
    Nick Van Exel, Anthony Carter, Jack Vaughn, Beno Udrih...
    Those have been all our 3rd string PGs, so obviously there's something you know that the Spurs FO doesn't, since they can't seem to be able to pick up a 3rd string PG from the D League, but you can...

    But you're missing the point. The 3rd string PG fills a spot in our current roster where we don't have a lot of depth, but it's also the filler in the trade. If Bonner is going to play scared like he did in the playoffs, then I rather have a 1st round pick to trade next season.

    Then again, the FO might be keeping him as insurance. If halfway through the season we have an injury, they can trade him then for a piece to replace the injured guy. This could actually work well, since some teams might want to shred more salary if they already know they won't be competing for the le and want to be in next year's sweepstakes for the free agent star players, so you might get a steal at that point.

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    Bonner will be an excelent option from 0.01 sec. to 0.05 sec. of playing time
    Human victory cigar a la Jack Vaughn???

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    There's always going to be room in the Popovich system for a 6-10 guy who can shoot the 3.
    He's not 6'10, if he was, he would be a of a player. He's 6-7, 6'8 max.

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