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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Well, and Bush campaigned as a uniter and conciliator in 2000 just to run as the decider and being seen as an extremely divisive and polarizing character in 2004. Of course this happens, I'm just saying they can't expect to eat the cake and keep it.



    I wouldn't puch much stock in brand polls. People perceive the country going into the wrong direction and see the Congress with despise. Whoever holds the power will be punished. The Party of No is partisan vitrol as convincing to the regular voter as the Party of Death.

    Political cycles are getting smaller and smaller. The more a party is seen as governing in a partisan fashion, the more independents and centrists will run away from that party, even if the policies aren't really radical.
    Sure taken out of context brand polls can be misread. But when you compare them to other brand polls in the past its completely possible to see how today's opinions compare to those of the past and when you do that it becomes apparent what bad shape the GOP was in. I mean com'on, this isn't even a reach. There's a reason the Democrats have the most seats they've had in quite some time.

    You advocate caution because it might come back to bite them in the ass. I don't see it that way. I see right now as an opportunity before the GOP gains seats back. Barring something extraordinary, the GOP will gain seats in congress. It is the typical swing of the political pendulum. Playing to stop that swing is far worse than using the advantage to pass your agenda while you have it.

    To adapt your analogy: They'd better eat the cake while they have it.

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    Peel off one guy or gal. Getting to 60 votes is hard.
    I doubt it. There are enough RINOs to make up for the Blue Dogs.

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    Who all is a RINO?

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    I heard Sen. Snowe is a probable yea. But I didn't hear of any others from the GOP in the Senate.

    And for some reason the press keeps reaching for Sen. Lincoln as an example of the sort of imperilled moderate democrat who might vote nay. There must be others.

    Which other Republicans in the Senate besides Sen. Snowe are gonna break down and vote for this ty thing, WC?

    Why not let the Dems own it 100 %?

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    Sure taken out of context brand polls can be misread. But when you compare them to other brand polls in the past its completely possible to see how today's opinions compare to those of the past and when you do that it becomes apparent what bad shape the GOP was in. I mean com'on, this isn't even a reach. There's a reason the Democrats have the most seats they've had in quite some time.

    You advocate caution because it might come back to bite them in the ass. I don't see it that way. I see right now as an opportunity before the GOP gains seats back. Barring something extraordinary, the GOP will gain seats in congress. It is the typical swing of the political pendulum. Playing to stop that swing is far worse than using the advantage to pass your agenda while you have it.

    To adapt your analogy: They'd better eat the cake while they have it.
    Bon appé .

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Lost in the boutonsian diatribe of partisan fueled bovine incomprehension is the fact that this Healthcare Reform bill isn't.
    If there were anybody left supporting this bill with a room temprature IQ, they'd send it back to the House and start over....small steps, well thought-out and succinctly transparent. Of course, I drink alot too.

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