We'll just have to hope that Hairston shows enough to warrant the $ in these last few games..I'd like to see him play with the 1st unit..he's had success playing with Tony every time they're together, and he had success playing with the rotation players when he was with the Spurs last season..
Bogans got his chance to play with them and hasn't impressed, same with Haislip..at least IMO..
I'm not sure if you're implying I'm a plagiarist or just making an observation of style, but I'll take it as a compliment either way; plagiarism, done well, is a talent nonetheless.
I enjoy 48MoH and have posted quite a few of their pieces, but I can assure you I'm not Tim.
I'm just a basketball-loving junky, with absolutely no writing-experience and barely a high-school diploma.
So what I might take it as a compliment, well..
I'm not sure Varner would feel the same.
I understand where Holt and the FO are coming from. I mean considering the state of the economy atm there is no need to be wasteful and frivolous with your money. I'm just dissapointed that the FO didn't slam on the breaks sooner. I mean they had signed plenty of free agents to fill in gaps left after the RJ trade(Dice, Ratliff, and Haslip). I thought they were done. Wasn't RJ suppose to try and take over duties for the retired Bowen? Why did they have to take it one step further and try and add an additional piece on top of all this.
As far as I was concerned the youth was gonna take care of the rest(hill, hairston, blair, mahinmi). Personally everything I saw in the past year from Hairston told me he was the closest thing to being Bowen's successor. But then the FO decided to keep pressing and sign Bogans to a guaranteed contract. I didn't see that added piece coming did any of you guys? Everything so far has shown that move to look more and more idiotic by the day. Bottom line is Malik looks like he is doing everything Bogans was suppose to be doing and more. Bogan even seems like a liability on offense at this point. Which even makes him less likely to be the ideal guy to put out there as our defensive stopper.
I dunno i'm just really routing for Malik and have been for awhile now. He still might be a little green, but I believe he is ready to grow the rest of his game in the NBA. He's putting himself more on the radar out in the league with each game he plays. It scares me to think there would be an outside chance that another team heeds notice and could possibly snatch him up from us.
Only a compliment! Spurstalk and 48MOH seem to have a nice synergy.I'm not sure if you're implying I'm a plagiarist or just making an observation of style, but I'll take it as a compliment either way; plagiarism, done well, is a talent nonetheless.
I enjoy 48MoH and have posted quite a few of their pieces, but I can assure you I'm not Tim.
I'm just a basketball-loving junky, with absolutely no writing-experience and barely a high-school diploma.
So what I might take it as a compliment, well..
I'm not sure Varner would feel the same.
I can understand signing Bogans because they had no established defensive stopper at the time. Whether Bogans will fit the bill is another matter, but I can understand getting Bogans on board rather than wait and hope to see what Hairston could deliver. Guaranteeing the contract was the problem.
I think Haislip's signing also filled a void - an athletic 4. I imagine the FO considered Ian the same they did Hairston - unproven. Whether Haislip had proved anything before is also a legitimate question.
On the whole, it seem wrong to totally throw Bogans under the bus so soon. If Hairston can improve within the system, then so too can Bogans, as well as Haislip. However, according to many here who have seen them play, their initial showings were not that great. I wish I had seen more of the preseason games, but I was too busy downloading spyware from China, I mean, trying to find a stream to watch the games...
For the record:
1. Bogans is fully guaranteed.
2. Hairston is $50,000 of $736,420 guaranteed.
3. Jerrells is $75,000 of $457,588 guaranteed.
4. Jones was fully unguaranteed.
Don't know about Williams.
wow, Sham himself. great site. welcome!
(let's call it the Blair effect. Sham wanted his Bulls to pick Blair that badly, that he will now follow Blair's path and join whatever is related to the Spurs)
Bruno mentioned, that Hairston's contract will not get fully guaranteed after camp. does anybody know at what date it becomes guaranteed? as mentioned, it would not make much sense to cut him immediately, if he was the remaining #15 on the roster.
(currently it doesn't look as if either Jerrells or Williams have the slightest chance to outplay him). it would indeed make some sense to keep him till December 15th, this would be 22 games, which means about 220K in salary (+220K in tax). considering his 50K guarantee, that's 170K+170K=340K additional costs the Spurs. but that way he would also still be a trade asset, after December 15th we will see some moves of FAs who didn't fit like some teams thought.
of course that's not the scenario I want to see. best case is, that Hairston stays on the roster, proves to be a legit NBA player, outplays Bogans for the 5 spot in the wing rotation and 2010 it is out of any question, that he is part of the Spurs future.
Interesting. That tells me the market for Hairston isn't too large. It also tells me that someone in the FO was drunk when they guaranteed $75K to Jerrells. They must have really thought he could make the team. That also explains why he left Detroit to come to Spurs training camp.
Thanks Sham for the infos.
$75K for Jerrels is a lot of money but I'm not sure it's because they thought he could have been Spurs' 3rd string PG. If Spurs were looking for a 3rd PG, they could have done better than Jerrels and given that the backup PG (Hill) is a sop re, a vet PG would have made more sense.
There could could have a deal under the table with Jerrels: Spurs gives him $75K and in exchange he goes in D-League and not overseas when he is waived. If Jerrels enter in the D-league, he has a good chance of being directly affiliated with Toros given his local roots. However, does it makes for Spurs/Toros to spend an additional $150K to have a good PG in Austin? Maybe they also think that Jerrels will draw additional people to Toros games.
NBA contracts becomes fully guaranteed on Jan 10th.
Well, if you keep Hairston after Nov 3rd, he will cost you money. It doesn't make a lot of sense to keep him if you doesn't like him. The trade asset edge is very marginal given his low salary.
sure, he won't be a crucial part of a blockbuster trade. I was thinking about the additional trade value of the unguaranteed contract. if Spurs decide to make some moves between December 15th and January 10th, maybe to get rid of FAs like Haislip or Bogans AND dumping salary isn't the major concern, then the contract of Hairston might be somehow helpful. there will still be plenty of teams out there, that try harder to dump salary than the Spurs need to. In December things might look totally different, we can't rule out injuries. or maybe Spurs find out that the PG situation still needs another solution. who knows. then the option to trow in an unguaranteed contract could be a powerful asset.
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