9/11 Truthers

[ChumpDumper]

No one knows exactly why WTC had to be pulled...the theory that WTC7 was used as a epicenter to control the planes that hit WTC1 and WTC2 are just a hypothesis, one among many....this speculation is not completely unfounded...WTC7 was constructed with structural reinforcements so that local/state govt could use as a control center in a terra' attack...one that Giuliani, a neocon extreme who benefited from the attacks, had supervision over..

Is this what you believe, dan?

[mouse]

[ChumpDumper]

So are you saying that cop was part of the 9/11 conspiracy?

(And can you prove he was actually talking about WTC7?)

[mouse]

So are you saying that cop was part of the 9/11 conspiracy?

I would have to have more time before I could answer that truthfully.

(And can you prove he was actually talking about WTC7?)

Not 100% but even if he wasn't what other building is it ok to say look out that building is coming down?

[ChumpDumper]

I would have to have more time before I could answer that truthfully.

More time than what?

It's a yes or no question.

Not 100% but even if he wasn't what other building is it ok to say look out that building is coming down?

Perhaps it was a school that was rumored to have a bomb planted in it that day.

If a person really wanted to know the truth, he would probably be have already verified what he was talking about.

Do you believe those are pre-planted demolition squibs?

[mouse]

More time than what?

It's a yes or no question.

Maybe for the average person but for you a person has to watch how they talk you like to twist what they say to make it look like they are re ed.
I notice you love asking question but rarely answer them.

If a person really wanted to know the truth, he would probably be have already verified what he was talking about.

kinda difficult when the evidence is kept under lock and key.

Do you believe those are pre-planted demolition squibs?

I believe those two buildings didn't fall that fast due to gravity.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe for the average person but for you a person has to watch how they talk you like to twist what they say to make it look like they are re ed.

Actually, by not answering a simple yes or no question, you do a pretty good job making yourself look that way.

I notice you love asking question but rarely answer them.

I've answered quite a few of your questions. The you get flustered, change the subject and try some lame personal insult.

kinda difficult when the evidence is kept under lock and key.

Under which lock and key is the evidence for that cop's video kept? The video is already there, and the rest of it is also readily available on the internet. You may be surprised if you actually look. I'm guessing you won't.

I believe those two buildings didn't fall that fast due to gravity.

That wasn't the question and another YouTube with spooky synth music is not an answer.

Do you believe those are pre-planted demolition squibs?

[mouse]

Actually, by not answering a simple yes or no question, you do a pretty good job making yourself look that way.

Maybe to someone who cares to know the truth I may look bad if I don't answer right away. but as for answering to the "Chump"?

There is no right answer your just going to turn it into something you want it to be. If I say watermelons are red inside you will say prove it. If i post a picture of a watermelon you will say "how do i know that is a real watermelon and not photo shopped?"

You use old tactics in debates the rest of the forum has no idea what they are. You will ask..."Do you still beat your wife?" If I say no then it will will show I used to beat her, if i say yes then you accomplished your mission.

There is no right answer. If there was we would not still be having 9/11 topics with you saying

"so what really happened on 9/11?"

I've answered quite a few of your questions.

You mean you posted something to try and debunk me

The you get flustered, change the subject and try some lame personal insult.

I find that hard to believe, I am not the insult type. if I call you a tree hugger that is a fact or an observation I have of you it is not intended to be a cheap shot.

Under which lock and key is the evidence for that cop's video kept?

now you want blue prints of the NSA's evidence room? How about the same place they keep the fake moon landing footage and the film of the missile hitting the pentagon. If I had the answers would I not be on FOX news or dead by now since that seems to be what happens to people who find out about your corrupted government.

The video is already there, and the rest of it is also readily available on the internet. You may be surprised if you actually look. I'm guessing you won't.

I will look give me a chance to reply to the Evolution topics also we don't want your Darwin worshiper's to start calling me out.

That wasn't the question and another YouTube with spooky synth music is not an answer.

well then you answer a few questions and show us all how it's done properly.

Do you believe those are pre-planted demolition squibs?

Until I research further I will not say for sure. I will say this, it's not bags of flour.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe to someone who cares to know the truth I may look bad if I don't answer right away. but as for answering to the "Chump"?

There is no right answer your just going to turn it into something you want it to be. If I say watermelons are red inside you will say prove it. If i post a picture of a watermelon you will say "how do i know that is a real watermelon and not photo shopped?"

I have never asked you if something is photoshopped. Your photoshop jobs are self-evident.

You use old tactics in debates the rest of the forum has no idea what they are. You will ask..."Do you still beat your wife?" If I say no then it will will show I used to beat her, if i say yes then you accomplished your mission.[/quote]I never asked you that. I asked you what you think really happened on 9/11.

There is no right answer. If there was we would not still be having 9/11 topics with you saying

"so what really happened on 9/11?"

I never said there were any right answers.

You give no answer to the most basic question: What do you think really happened on 9/11?

You mean you posted something to try and debunk me

You asked questions and I answered them. You didn't like the answers.

Sorry.

I find that hard to believe, I am not the insult type.

Believe it. You insult people all the time. Especially when you think you are being showed up in a thread.

now you want blue prints of the NSA's evidence room?

You made the claim. Why can't you back it up?

How about the same place they keep the fake moon landing footage

You think the moon landings were faked?

and the film of the missile hitting the pentagon.

That video was released years ago.

If I had the answers would I not be on FOX news or dead by now since that seems to be what happens to people who find out about your corrupted government.

Too bad the complete footage of the cop and the building he was talking about is freely available and not under lock and key at all.

I will look give me a chance to reply to the Evolution topics also we don't want your Darwin worshiper's to start calling me out

Already did.

well then you answer a few questions and show us all how it's done properly.

Already did.

Until I research further I will not say for sure. I will say this, it's not bags of flour.

It's a yes or no question.

It's been eight years -- how long do you need to research it?

[Duncan]

You think the moon landings were faked?

oh it's on now!

[Nbadan]

damn...classic thread..

[Blake]

damn...classic thread..

looks the same as all the other 9/11 threads to me

[Nbadan]

Maybe you should stay out of 9/11 thread, this is a Mouse-Chumpy danceothon....

[Re-Animator]

[mouse]

Maybe you should stay out of 9/11 thread, this is a Mouse-Chumpy danceothon....

I will debate Chump if we at least have some ground rules.

A: after I make a point he needs to resolve it before we move on to the next point.

B: He can't respond with "So what do you think really happened on 9/11?"

[ChumpDumper]

You posted a YouTube video of an audio interview of a guy who is telling people to watch his YouTube video about the joooooooos' being behind 9/11.

Seriously mouse, whenever I address one of your points (BTW, are they your points? You have never expressed positive belief in anything), you change the subject with seven more videos -- apparently because you no longer wish to discuss your point.

That seems like resolution to me.

[mouse]

Most of the videos are there to aggravate you to get you off your game and I must say it works better than I could ever imagine.

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why WTC7 would come crashing down at almost free fall speed without being hit by an aircraft.

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why Bush lied to us about WMD's in Iraq


You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years How come the NSA knew about the hijacker's 2 years prior and did nothing about it.


You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why you haven't been able to connect the dots yet and resort to saying...

"so what do you think really happened on 9/11?"

I think after 7 years of you avoiding the truth a few youtube videos can't be that bad to watch as we wait another 7 years, do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Most of the videos are there to aggravate you to get you off your game and I must say it works better than I could ever imagine.

They aggravate me because they are as full of lies as you.

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why WTC7 would come crashing down at almost free fall speed without being hit by an aircraft.

It got hit by the north tower when it collapsed and burned uncontrolled for several hours. I can give you the link to the report I'm sure you haven't read.

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why Bush lied to us about WMD's in Iraq

He chose to believe they existed and exaggerated their threat to the US. Saddam did nothing to discoutage this belief. I do agree Bush and his underlings had a hard-on for Iraq, but that isn't the same as saying they orchestrated the 9/11 attacks themselves. Are you saying they did?

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years How come the NSA knew about the hijacker's 2 years prior and did nothing about it.

You never brought this up to me. Which hijackers and what about them was known? Let's talk about it.

You have failed to tell the ST posters in over 7 years why you haven't been able to connect the dots yet and resort to saying...

"so what do you think really happened on 9/11?"

The dots are already connected in my theory of what really happened on 9/11. You have never said what you think really happened on 9/11, so you certainly haven't connected any of the claims you have made. Have you actually even made a claim yet?

I think after 7 years of you avoiding the truth a few youtube videos can't be that bad to watch as we wait another 7 years, do you?

I think we'll be waiting even longer than that for you to actually say what you think really happened on 9/11.

It's hilarious that you get so upset when I ask you that simple question.

You never answer it.

If I want to start a meltdown filled and a subject changing rant from you, it's all I need:

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[mouse]

You never brought this up to me. Which hijackers and what about them was known? Let's talk about it.

7:25 into the film

[mouse]

The footage ChumpDumper doesn't want you to see...
1:47 into the film, we had three years notice!

[mouse]

They aggravate me because they are as full of lies as you.

Show me these lies you speak of.

It got hit by the north tower when it collapsed and burned uncontrolled for several hours. I can give you the link to the report I'm sure you haven't read.

post it again.

He chose to believe they existed and exaggerated their threat to the US. Saddam did nothing to discoutage this belief. I do agree Bush and his underlings had a hard-on for Iraq, but that isn't the same as saying they orchestrated the 9/11 attacks themselves. Are you saying they did?

watch this and then decide if your post is legit.

You never brought this up to me. Which hijackers and what about them was known? Let's talk about it.

Grab some popcorn and watch the video posted in the above post..

The dots are already connected in my theory of what really happened on 9/11.

Now lets see you compare your half baked theories to the facts.

You have never said what you think really happened on 9/11, so you certainly haven't connected any of the claims you have made. Have you actually even made a claim yet?

Again go back to earlier 9/11 topics.

I think we'll be waiting even longer than that for you to actually say what you think really happened on 9/11.

How about forget what I think and start posting some facts?

It's hilarious

I never joke around about the poeple who did on 9/11

you get so upset when I ask you that simple question.

Go back to the 9/11 topics of the past and please take your alzheimer's disease medication.

You never answer it.

yes I have.

If I want to start a meltdown filled and a subject changing rant from you, it's all I need:

If this is what you think a meltdown is your either new to the www or haven't read any meltdown topics before.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

Go back to the earlier 9/11 topics I told you more than once.

[ChumpDumper]

post it again.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/NCSTAR1Aindex.htm

watch this and then decide if your post is legit.

I will not watch 30 minutes of YouTubes. Explain it yourself.

Grab some popcorn and watch the video posted in the above post.

Nope. You're going to have to make your own argument.

Now lets see you compare your half baked theories to the facts.

Let's see you say something yourself. What are your facts and how do they fit what you think really happened on 9/11?

Again go back to earlier 9/11 topics.

No. Make your claims here and now.

How about forget what I think and start posting some facts?

How about posting what you think really happened on 9/11?

I never joke around about the poeple who did on 9/11

Never said you did. Nice straw man attempt.

Go back to the 9/11 topics of the past and please take your alzheimer's disease medication.

You never siad anything about what you think really happened on 9/11. Skip the ad hominems and say it now.

yes I have.

Then say it here.

Or provide a link to the post where you actually said it. There is no reason for you to avoid it.

If this is what you think a meltdown is your either new to the www or haven't read any meltdown topics before.

This is more of a frenzied tap dance to avoid answering a question, but give it time.

Go back to the earlier 9/11 topics I told you more than once.

Link the single post that is your answer or just post what you think really happened on 9/11.

[yet another YouTube]

I am not watching 40 minutes of YouTubes. They do not answer my question.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[mouse]

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

You got your first hard on and decided to make everyones life miserable asking the same question over and over. is that the answer you seek?

[mouse]

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/NCSTAR1Aindex.htm

I will not watch 30 minutes of YouTubes.

I don't blame you its 30 minutes of your bull theories crumbling down in front of you on your PC monitor.

Not once have you ever showed me how my videos lie. you just ignore them rather than comment on them

real nice debate you have going here.

Chump ask questions
Mouse post video proof
Chump ignores video
Chump ask question again.

Your a real piece of work you should run for office.

[ChumpDumper]

You got your first hard on and decided to make everyones life miserable asking the same question over and over. is that the answer you seek?

Ad hominem.

Answer the question.

[yet another Youtube]

I'm not going to watch 50 minutes of YouTubes.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?